Nobody likes to be called a dummy by a dummy.

a little nostalgia for you

http://grayapple.blogs.ie/2006/01/22/windows-101-booting/#more-114

No big deal, but it brings back memories, like an old song.

Remember that? Some of you will remember. I remember Windows 3.01 better because by then I cared. But some machines still had the first Windows version on them, so I could look back. In 1985, I was going off to college, and the university had Cyber Vax machines and MacIntoshes in the library.

I hated mainframes because I didn't have the concepts in my mind yet, so I dropped comp sci and majored in poli sci. A few years later, a guy I hung out with in the Navy showed me DOS 6. Heh.
Permalink sharkfish 
January 22nd, 2006
Several days ago, one of my posts (again a post created very late at night) got on the front page of Reddit - It was some old magazine content.

http://www.yafla.com/dforbes/categories/personal/2006/01/18.html#a243

The next day Reddit was dominated by reminiscing/Commodore 64 type stuff. Thought that was sorta humorous, and though it could be coincidence, I do think that my post (inspired by the fact that my wife dumped one of my magazines on my office chair) was a short-term impetus.
Permalink Dennis Forbes 
January 22nd, 2006
Forbesies ego shows :)

Cool.
Permalink sharkfish 
January 22nd, 2006
Not really an ego, but an interesting observation. Watch Reddit and you will see trends develop -- when a certain type of story makes it to the front page, invariably people start submitting that sort of story (hoping for the same success), and people start promoting that sort of story. Then that trend gets boring and its onto something else.
Permalink Dennis Forbes 
January 22nd, 2006
Ego kiddo , ego. Get over yourself.
Permalink  
January 22nd, 2006
Sounds like ?off.

I've used digg, reddit, slashdot, Wired, delicious, etc. to keep up with the pulse for a long while. The thing _I_ notice the most is what a lonely planet it is for smart people. The stuff that comes up on those sites is so woefully ignored by the mainstream, yet most of "us" think the rest of the world cares.

Obvious, but it still bothers me.

I think people hardly realize the difference between computers today and computers from a quarter century ago. It really is a shame that the people who did the real work (not me!) and made personal computers mainstream are so easily forgotten and blown off as "nerds".

The nostalgia thing, for me, takes me back to a time when I felt something was happening but I knew not what. From my perspective as a non-geek back then, people went from word processing and calculators with computers to spreadsheets then to email and oh my god the internet happened.

Kids today don't have a real idea of the differences - no bearings on how we got here. But having watched it, I feel a sense of joy.
Permalink sharkfish 
January 22nd, 2006
"It really is a shame that the people who did the real work (not me!) and made personal computers mainstream are so easily forgotten and blown off as "nerds"."

I commented on this a while ago. Safe bet that *nobody* knows who Tim Berners-Lee is, but ask who Shaquille O'Neal is, and...

[arg - one more thing to teach the kids]

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 22nd, 2006
"but ask who Shaquille O'Neal is"

or Donald Trump or Paris Hilton...
Permalink sharkfish 
January 22nd, 2006
They are showing Spice Girls clips on VH1 now. Everything's doomed to become a classic...
Permalink Mr. Powers 
January 22nd, 2006
I have to say that probably the crowning glory of my career was submitting some code to an early version of Lynx (to fix some edge-cases with badly nested tags). Hardly a massive claim to fame, but without Lynx there'd have been no Mosaic, and without Mosaic there'd have been no Netscape Navigator/IE, and the internet as we know it wouldn't exist today. (On the other hand it may have been better had the internet not "become" the web -- it was certainly less populated by idiots back then.)

I'm not a proper "old-timer", but I've been around long enough to feel a certain twinge of sadness when some of the real heroes of the modern world go completely unrecognised. At least Tim Berners-Lee (who I believe still owes me a beer) got knighted for his efforts, but ask the average man on the street what Xerox Parc was or what Gary Kildall did and dollars to doughnuts they won't have a clue, and yet without them (and others like them) where would we be?
Permalink Mat Hall 
January 22nd, 2006
I only knew Windows 3.1, but the DosShell brings back memories.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 22nd, 2006
"The thing _I_ notice the most is what a lonely planet it is for smart people."

Yep. Also, people value quick thinkers vastly over slow smarts. Payday at 20 over payday at 40 - Tiger Woods would not be Tiger Woods if it happened at 40. In software and technology, it doesn't matter as much - one reason I chose it; hiring practices aside.

I seem to remember all those computer ads. I even sent away for the application kit to work at Broderbund - that was 20 years ago (they were looking more for program submissions than employees it seemed).  I did get away from computers - "out of the loop" as my friend had warned - for a number of years before coming back.
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
January 22nd, 2006
"The stuff that comes up on those sites is so woefully ignored by the mainstream, yet most of "us" think the rest of the world cares."

Different people cares about different stuff. People who don't care about your stuff are not necessarily ignorant or stupid.
Permalink Rick Tang 
January 23rd, 2006
The first Windows program what I wrote was a hack of the Clock app, the source came with the OEM version along with the rest of the apps. All I did was add timezone information and let each instance pick up a different time zone so that you could have a display tiled (Windows would tile then) at the top of the desktop much like companies with international offices.

The most useful app I wrote for Windows 1 was to eject Tandon Data Pacs which we squirreled out the door in some way to dealers.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 23rd, 2006

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