Nobody likes to be called a dummy by a dummy.

Like that Burger King band? Wish they were real? Well they are!

(obligatory opinion so this isn't just a "discuss" post)

"Hi, we're slipknot, and though we've been around for years, we're riding BK's coattails to fame."
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 19th, 2005
"Hi, we're Slipknot, and although we're supposed to be rebels against society, we're gonna kick the shit out of anyone that's interfering with us cashing in on our fans".
Permalink Flasher T 
August 19th, 2005
"Hi, we're Slipknot and damn I wish we'd taken them up on that offer. Even my mother knows who CoqRoq is, but she still thinks I should get a job."
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 19th, 2005
Wow I thought that really was slipknot in the commercials. It looks exactly like them, it's such a rip off.

And the AUDACITY of Burger King to then file suit against the band after STEALING their identity.

Filthy motherf-ers. Never eating at Burger King again. (No loss, I hate their food, think its disgusting and never eat there anyway.)
Permalink Rich Rogers 
August 19th, 2005
You got that backwards, Slipknot sued Buger King and their ad agency.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 19th, 2005
That's not true Mark, read the complaint. Slipknot sent Burger King a cease and desist order, and I think a very reasonable one. Burger King responded by filing suit against them in court, demanding the judge bless their campaign and order Slipknot to pay Burger King all their legal fees and other costs.
Permalink Rich Rogers 
August 19th, 2005
Ya know what? They deserve each other.
Permalink Flasher T 
August 19th, 2005
Huh. I must not understand the legaleze. I thought the BK thing was just to get a judge to rule in the lawsuit SlipKnot already filed.

See, this is the real reason we need lawyers. :)
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 19th, 2005
The first three pages are the cease and desist their lawyers sent to BK on August 4th and received by BK on the 8th, giving them a week to cease and desist. The rest of the documents are the lawsuit plantiff BK filed against defendents Slipknot & Co on the 12th. See the end of this document for how BK is seeking money from Slipknot, I guess for the free advertising they must be getting.

I just do not care for most heavy metal, but I'd seen Slipknot's albums at Tower Records and noticed them since they were kind of cool covers. When I saw the BK commercial, I thought it was them and they just sold out. A lot of their fans also thought they sold out as well. They probably didn't bother to get trademarks on their look and feel, so probably BK will win and drive them out of business, just like big corporations always manage to do as part of their standard process of reaming and killing the little guys.
Permalink Rich Rogers 
August 19th, 2005
On a related topic, this is really a pretty amazing marketing campaign for BK's stupid elongated mechanically separated chicken nugget:

http://www.coqroq.com/

Note the orgy at the end of the first video.
Permalink Rich Rogers 
August 19th, 2005
Very interesting... the remix application is for Mac only. I guess we know who the stoners are that munch up at BK.
Permalink Rich Rogers 
August 19th, 2005
Lets hope that BK reap the whirlwind.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
August 19th, 2005
I quite like the Ronald McDonald figure in the video I'd have thought that worth a cease and desist as well.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
August 19th, 2005
"See the end of this document for how BK is seeking money from Slipknot, I guess for the free advertising they must be getting."

I only read (skimmed) the first page of the second document and glanced at the rest. If I were Burger King, I'd do the same.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 19th, 2005
It's cases like this that make me wish Common Law had an option for *both* sides losing.
Permalink Colm O'Connor 
August 19th, 2005
"They probably didn't bother to get trademarks on their look and feel, so probably BK will win and drive them out of business, just like big corporations always manage to do as part of their standard process of reaming and killing the little guys"

While I totally agree with the general principle, I'd like to point out that any band that doesn't take the time to get a good manager (to look after this kind of stuff) is taking a huge risk.

After seeing "Iron Maiden - The Early Years", I've really come to appreciate the importance of a good manager. I now understand why, back in 1986, they already had their own company, and had only distribution deals with EMI.
Permalink Paulo Caetano 
August 19th, 2005
They claiming nobody else can wear masks! And some of you think they're the underdog and should win!

Suprised they don't claim infringment because the BK group uses guitars, like they do.
Permalink Stephen Jones 
August 19th, 2005
Stephen,

It's not that they are wearing masks, it's that they are wearing masks that look nearly identical. This should be pretty hard considering Slipknot's masks are all home made. BK chose Slipknot because they are probably the #1 metal band right now.
Permalink Jared 
August 19th, 2005
Oh, and trust me, Slipknot doesn't need BK to make them popular. They are the "biggest thing" right now, and I think that it is already too much for them. They are simple guys from Ohio.
Permalink Jared 
August 19th, 2005
They are from Iowa, not Ohio. Though we are routinely confused with both Ohio and Idaho. And it's corn, not potatos here. Damn you.
Permalink Pseudo Masochist 
August 19th, 2005
*potatoes.
Permalink Pseudo Masochist 
August 19th, 2005

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