corporate re-education is so fun!

Firewall. New hacker flick?

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/3523921

Has our profession finally made it out of science fiction and into mainstream? I guess "security specialist" is sort of in the same arena as what most of us do for a living. AND we get Harrison Ford. How 'bout that.
Permalink sharkfish 
January 21st, 2006
I think I saw the trailer for that. I guess it was forgettable.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
Isn't it a remake of Frantic? Or any of the other "we have someone you love. Do [x] bad thing or they die" movie?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 21st, 2006
Oh, NOW I remember it.

Harrison Ford is a security expert. People kidnap his wife & kid to force him to break into the bank he designed. He starts to go along with them, but then uses his 1337 skillz to turn the tables on them, draining their bank accounts, etc.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
Wait, are we talking about Flight Plan?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 21st, 2006
Different thread.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
Same movie.
Permalink Philo 
January 21st, 2006
Oh, I didn't know that *that* was why her daughter disappeared, I thought it played the is she crazy or not line throughout.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
Talk about Enemy of the State (hacker flick I really liked).
Permalink trollop 
January 21st, 2006
I want one of those hidey holes that absorb all radio waves.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
"Firewall" reminds me of "Ransom" with Mel Gibson that gets on my nerves because he plays the same character in every film. And he is a religious zealot.
Permalink sharkfish 
January 21st, 2006
Ford plays the same character in every film too.

In an interview with Charlie Rose he said, basically "I don't believe that indie movies are inherently more artful than hollywood movies. What I do is work. It takes me away from my family, from my kids, and for me to justify that, it has to pay a lot of money."

Or something like that.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
"""What I do is work. It takes me away from my family, from my kids, and for me to justify that, it has to pay a lot of money."""

Yeah. Obviously not a milktoast software guy. Why don't we take that attitude more often as worker bees?
Permalink sharkfish 
January 21st, 2006
Look in real estate for Atr, L/R(OFP), D/R, F/F Kit, 4BR, Den(Faraday), 2Bath, Laun, 2Car ...
Permalink trollop 
January 21st, 2006
I've liked most of Mr Ford's movies that I've seen. Mel peaked in Mad Max 2.
Permalink trollop 
January 21st, 2006
Because we don't have several million in the bank with the luxury of not working if a choice job doesn't come along and we're not in such high demand that work literally shows up on our doorstep?
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 21st, 2006
I suspect Ford is popular with directors because he probably regards his job as such and gets on with it instead of carrying on like a prima donna.
Permalink trollop 
January 21st, 2006
Harrison Ford is the same guy in every movie, just as Joe Pesci and Robert DeNiro are. I don't know if there's a term for it - but AFAICT good movies are mostly about putting the right people in the right roles.

There *are* a minority of actors who can actually be different people - Hugh Laurie and Hugh Jackman come to mind. I think Charlize Theron can, too.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 21st, 2006
"There *are* a minority of actors who can actually be different people - Hugh Laurie and Hugh Jackman come to mind. I think Charlize Theron can, too."

I would say going from "Woodie Harrelson" in Cheers to Natural Born Killers was as stretch. hehe.

Yeah, I'd love to see that 'Firewall' movie.
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
January 21st, 2006
I'm thinking that the script writer will have screwed up something pretty basic that will cause me to just go "eewwww". I wish they'd consult with someone who knew the technology.

I'll probably see it as a matinee or rental, and not full-price.

Examples:
1) Dan Brown's Digitial Fortress: "The hackers will be through the firewall in 18.3422755 minutes!"
2) Steve Martini's Double Tap: "IFS is made up of several software codes"
Permalink example 
January 21st, 2006
Philo - I think the word is typecasting;-)
Permalink a cynic writes... 
January 21st, 2006
If he can fly the Millenium Falcon, then surely he can man a firewall!


;-P
Permalink LinuxOrBust 
January 21st, 2006
No - typecasting is when they're stuck by virtue of genre movies. I'm talking about actors who, no matter what they do, are still playing the same role.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 21st, 2006
Character Actors?
Permalink Jp 
January 22nd, 2006
Philo - you make it sound like it's entirely the actor's fault and that the studio has nothing to do with it and that typecasting is when they're pigeonholed by the studio and not by their own choosing.

The fact that Ford plays the same character in every movie means that the same character is written into every movie he's in, and they are all the same basic "thriller" genre. If he's saving the president, or if he is the president, he's always playing the average guy with above average skills in a situation where he's forced to be ruthless for the greater good or because he's been pushed too far.
Permalink MarkTAW 
January 22nd, 2006
Seriously, this is not typecasting I'm talking about. Typecasting would be Sigourney Weaver only getting "bitch with a gun" roles, or Leonard Nimoy only getting "Logical alien" roles.

I'm talking about the fact that AFAIK Harrison Ford only plays as Harrison Ford. He "acts" in terms of being angry, or frightened, or in pain, yes. But he's always Harrison Ford angry, or frightened, or in pain.

On the other hand, check out the Prince in Black Adder and compare to House - same guy, but you would never, ever, ever guess it. One is a simpleminded fop who's obviously never done a lick of work in his life; the other is a pissed off old doctor who doesn't have the time of day for anyone who's not as smart as he is (everyone). When you see the character, your mind fills in a full history and background willingly, because Hugh Laurie is so good.

Peter Sellers is another great example - just watch Dr. Strangelove.

Gary Oldman's another - heck, I don't even know half the movies he was in because you can never recognize him.

Then I look at Harrison Ford in Firewall and think "Oh, it's President Indiana Jones trying to beat the Kessel Run in under five parsecs." But that's fine, because that's what the role calls for.

Al Pacino's the same way - he only ever plays Al Pacino. A good movie will use him as Al Pacino. He's not necessarily a cop who's up against the wall (typecasting) - in "Scent of a Woman" he was a blind retired Colonel. But he was still Al Pacino. ;)

Does this make sense?

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 22nd, 2006
BTW, I'm not trying to say Ford or Pacino aren't good actors - they're OUTSTANDING actors (and among my favorites). Just that they don't have the mimetic ability that Oldman or Laurie do. Not a bad thing - just a different talent.

Philo
Permalink Philo 
January 22nd, 2006

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