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There was this thing that...um...ummmm...what was it?

There was this website that someone posted about in 2003 that, like torrents, allowed you to upload some file to the webserver and then make a small url or some binary file out of it (about 2KB) in size and then when you sent that binary to the reciever and he could double-click the binary and download the entire file you uploaded.

I am not sure if this was the way it worked, but I remember having downloaded it and used it a couple of times. It either started with a B or a T. Bucket? Bouquet? Can't remember anything expcept that it had some client software you had to download that did the upload and the making the binary thing. Actually, I am not even sure if it had a client software, but I think I did, because that's how I used it.

The only way it was different from torrent was that it was not a file-sharing network. It was a private thing. You made that little 2 KB toffee and sent it to the guy you wanted to send your 3 MB file to, and he'd just unwrap the toffee and dig the 3 MB file out of it.

Any one?
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005
THere is a filebucket.com, but I don't know whether it does the little EXE business. That sounds like a waste of time, though -- isn't a URL easier (and less likely to get blacked by email filters) than sending executables to people?
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 22nd, 2005
Actually, I just forgot why I asked this question. There was something I wanted to do. I have forgotten it now. I'll just tap my head a bit harder and then know what was it that I wanted to do. Buffalo Bill....ummm...
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005
oh yeah! I remember. I asked because one of my clients asked me somedays ago. He wanted to send some *heheeehe*, some dirty stuff from office to his home computer w/o using the office ftp server.
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005
"one of my clients"

Are you sure it wasn't you, you filthy pervert? :)
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 22nd, 2005
no man, it was really my client. He's neck deep into porn, mp3 and stuff. :-)
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005
Kerala Times, Tuesday.

MIDDLE MANAGEMENT RING OF PORN DISCOVERED.

Late on Monday this week it became evident that there is an active ring of middle management amongst many of our top companies that obsessively swap porn downloaded from the Internet, all of them supported in this by....
Permalink Simon Lucy 
August 22nd, 2005
It is the aged American Reverse Telecommuting phenomenon being discovered now in India :-)
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005
But how is he going to keep the wife from finding out?

"Honey, I opened the email that you sent, and you wouldn't *believe* the stuff that was in there. You don't know anything about it, do you?"
Permalink example 
August 22nd, 2005
Are you talking about this Sath -

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2003/10/24.html
Permalink Dennis Forbes 
August 22nd, 2005
"...and it's going to take off like wildfire."

Yeah, whatever you say Joel... :)
Permalink Mat Hall 
August 22nd, 2005
I called Joel on it then, as it was pretty evident that this didn't have a hope in hell of taking off at all. I think Joel was a bit blinded by his admiration of Creo at the time. Of course the whole reflector bit and such probably served as some of the inspiration for copilot or whatever.
Permalink Dennis Forbes 
August 22nd, 2005
Creo's gone through some tough times since then... the merger with SciTex, now being bought out by Kodak. Another local business going downhill.
Permalink Ward 
August 22nd, 2005
I still think the Tokens thing was a great idea. I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain to non-tech-savvy graphic designers and marketing people why it causes problems when they try to send 30MB logo files as email attachments. Sure, it's easy for Mat or Dennis to run their own web server and zip up large files and upload them to it and send people a URL, but the average user doesn't have a prayer of accomplishing this. To me, the value of Tokens was not so much in the "redeeming" (downloading) functionality, but the ease of *creating* the "token" file that you want to send. That's the part that non-programmer types don't know how to do. On the receiving side, I agree that clicking a URL *is* easier than "redeeming" a "token", because there is no special software involved...but most people just don't know how to "make" a URL.

The biggest problem with Tokens is not the technology but more of a chicken-and-egg thing. It would have to be a ubiquitous standard to really be useful. If it were built into every OS or mail client so that you didn't have to download and install any extra software to use it, then it would be very useful. As it stands, it's just kind of "neat".

(And I was thinking the exact same thing about Joel's reflector/Copilot inspiration...)
Permalink bionicroach 
August 22nd, 2005
The tokens thing was a great idea for transferring large files, BUT, there are better things, such as remote servers with software that lets you upload and download files.

Since Creo used 3rd party servers if need be, their security wasn't any better.

Anyway, my current favorite is http://www.yousendit.com/ . Though I always use a fake email address and copy the URL after I'm done uploading.
Permalink MarkTAW 
August 22nd, 2005
Dennis, you're de man! Tokens it was. Thanks!
Permalink Sathyaish Chakravarthy 
August 22nd, 2005

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Joel on Software discussion board.

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