Sanding our assholes with 150 grit.

Pen's - where have all the good ballpoints gone?

I like ballpoint that write smooth and dark, but they are so hard to find I've almost switched to roller or gel. And don't get me started on the it has to be as big around as a bat and have a cushy rubber grip phase that has it som much of the market.

Are there any good ballpoint out there? Should I just write (pun intended) the ballpoint off and find something else?
Permalink Crusty Admin 
March 1st, 2005
The big fat pens are probably better for your poor, bitter arthritic fingers anyway. :)

My fiance also prefers ballpoints. I think she's crazy. Gel roller pens write much more smoothly, much more uniformly, and just glide better over the paper. The only issue is for sloppy writers who tend to smudge the ink.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
What, you can't spring for a Mont Blanc?

My favorite pens are technical pens, artist's pens, and they come in a variety of colors. I use green & black, depending on my mood.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
dork.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
No. No Mah Blah for me.
Permalink Crusty Admin 
March 1st, 2005
Staples has like 6 billion pens behind the counter, surely you can find something you like there.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
What do you think of Pilot ballpoints?
Permalink Tayssir John Gabbour 
March 1st, 2005
Pilot pens are the bane of existence, followed closely by Papermate.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
WWSCD?

(What would Soviet Cosmonauts Do)
Permalink Just use a pencil and shut up 
March 1st, 2005
That is an urban legend. Pencil shavings and broken leads floating around to be inhaled or get in your eye are not a good thing. Fisher funded the space pen project 100% with it's own money.
Permalink Crusty Admin 
March 1st, 2005
Both Americans and Russians used pencils in the early years of space exploration.
Permalink Actively Disengaged 
March 1st, 2005
Those of us with a left handed writing disposition tend to smear anything under any circumstances. I doubt I could write more than a hundred words at a time now.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 1st, 2005
I type far more than I write at this point. Eventually writing will go away. I wish someone would develop a decent chorded one-handed keyboard for my PDA.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
I used to use the Uni-Ball Onyx pens. Every Staples or office-supply place has 'em. Nice black line, starts right up, no silly form factor, and they have a (not unpleasant) "creak" to them when you write. And they're pretty cheap, too.
Permalink Snark 
March 1st, 2005
Ok now I am feeling older than I am. I tend to write way to fast making it nearly inlegible even to me so I switched to a nice fountian pen. Makes me write at a decent speed. Making it actualy readable and look rather nice as well. You can definatly tell when a fountian pen was used. the only problem is they do not like to be shaken in a pocket ect or they will make a mess.
Permalink Douglas 
March 1st, 2005
I have the same problem, so I invented my own style of handwriting that uses lots of short strokes. Short strokes makes it difficult to screw up, even on the subway.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
How legible is that? I've seen various types of short stroke handwriting that ranges from artistic to undecipherable.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
March 1st, 2005
I think Mark just likes to get in as many strokes as possible.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
Lots of short strokes with my pen...

Seriously, it's very legible, I was thinking of turning it into a font, or at least scanning in a sample for my website.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
dork.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
moron.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
Not in front of the children please.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 1st, 2005
The best ballpoint is the Zebra F-301 (not to be confused with the F-301 "Ultra").

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=ZEB27110
OR
http://tinyurl.com/432wa

It's compact, writes extremely well, looks awesome, has an unbreakable stainless steel barrel, and you can even get ink refills instead of replacing the whole pen. How's that for less than $3?
Permalink EAW 
March 1st, 2005
There seems to be a post about Fisher Space Pens that's been killed by the dork/moron moderators :) or by the spam filter.

It folds up small enough to fit in your front pants pocket (where you won't lose it unless you carried away with short strokes), but it won't ever explode.

If you're ever in Vegas, take a side trip to Boulder City and try to get a picture with Fisher before it's too late - he's 84. (or maybe it's 94)
Permalink Ward 
March 1st, 2005
errr... there aren't any posts deleted or filtered in this thread.


moron.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
I have a similar pen, it's more slender and fits in my wallet nicely. When you take the cap off and put it on the back, it becomes a regular sized pen.

http://www.rex6000.org/Images/stylus-retro51-passport.jpg

It doesn't write particularly smoothly, but I always have a pen when I need one. I also have a space pen, which was a gift. My girlfriend uses it more than I do, since I still prefer the Sakura Pigma Micron & similar.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
>>> Fisher funded the space pen project 100% with it's own money.

This sounded like Crusty Admin was referring to a post that repeated the BS story about NASA paying millions to develop a pen while the Russians used pencils.

jerk.
Permalink Ward 
March 1st, 2005
Ah, so you made an assumption and then accused the moderators of wiping out posts based on that assumption, and I'm a jerk.

dick.
Permalink muppet 
March 1st, 2005
My favorite pen, after years of looking, is the Parker 'Jotter', with Medium point black ink. Don't buy them in the winter, because if the ink freezes it doesn't flow as well afterwards.

Buy a stock in May, or better yet in late August when they've made fresh batches for all the school kids.

I usually purchase the "Back To School" set -- two almost identical pens, one actually a mechanical pencil. They look nice, they're not terribly expensive, and they work really well -- smooth writing, with good lines, and no blotches.
Permalink AllanL5 
March 1st, 2005
I throw away pens that annoy me.* Whatever is left, I use until it runs out of ink. Then, because a pen that is out of ink annoys me, I throw it away.

*Exception - some really nice pens, especially ones I've gotten as gifts, get kept even if they annoy me. I wind up misplacing them, which is almost the same thing as throwing them away.
Permalink Aaron F Stanton 
March 1st, 2005
"This sounded like Crusty Admin was referring to a post that repeated the BS story about NASA paying millions to develop a pen while the Russians used pencils."

Not a post. Someone mentioned using a pencil which was the line from the urban legend that the US gov't spent millions creating a pen that would write in outer space while the Russions used a pencil. You can look this on up on that urban legends website.
Permalink Crusty Admin 
March 1st, 2005
Ah, so, I made an assumption and then made a weak joke continuing the dork/moron thing, and I'm really a moron and dick.

dork :)

(with :) this time since you missed its implied presence)
Permalink Ward 
March 1st, 2005
How do you know muppet didn't get the joke?

idiot.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
I don't know whether he got the joke or not, he doesn't _seem_ to have gotten the smiley.

moron.
Permalink Ward 
March 1st, 2005
Anymore of this and the Playdoh (TM) is not coming out again.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 1st, 2005
Does anyone remember the smell of PlayDoh? That's something that stays with you for life.

partypooper.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 1st, 2005
You love the smell of almonds in the morning?
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 2nd, 2005
Rotring Rapido 0.3 mm is the best.
Permalink Martin 
March 2nd, 2005
the smell of PlayDoh is still enough to cheer me up out of most funks. Luckily my daughter has lots of it.
Permalink muppet 
March 2nd, 2005

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