A bunch of cunts, mostly in the Australian sense. Except that one guy.

"Hate the Left-Handed"

Ok. Don't keep on saying that.

It is quite simple. I just don't want my children to turn out left-handed. There is no hatred

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Now this is bigotry.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 7th, 2005
Funny. My father is left-handed. He writes funny -- with his hand positioned ABOVE the line he's writing, so he can read what he just wrote.

The societal stigma of that is MUCH less than gay marriage, just as the implication of his writing with his left hand is MUCH less than two guys (or two women) wanting to marry each other. For instance, his left-handed-ness didn't keep him out of the Army, affect his ability to shoot (ok, maybe a little), nor did it keep him from fathering three children, and remaining a faithful husband.

First of all the Gay Marriage thing is more a way to cement the conservative Christians to Bush's side (and confuse the Democrats) than it is a substantive issue. Sure they should have rights, but they won't EVER get them under the Republicans.

And I think the whole 'moral' outrage (sanctity of marriage) comes from the idea of male gays being more promiscuous than the population at large -- though the anal sex thing has a lot to do with it as well.

So, sorry, I think this is a bogus troll. Nice try, though.
Permalink AllanL5 
March 7th, 2005
I write with my left hand and do most everything else with my right, but with a moments thought can do it with my left. If you throw a ball at me then depending upon which direction its coming from I'll use either hand but in throwing it I'll always use the right.

Do not ask me for directions.

My mother in law began life left handed but was beaten (literally) out of it. It wasn't unusual even in my childhood to have the left hand bound to stop it being used.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
March 7th, 2005
When my parents were in school, lefties would get their hand tied up (as well as beaten) so that they would have to write with their right hand. Not even 50 years ago, here in the fine upstanding US, did this happen. It was treated as a moral issue: left-handed = sinister (latin for leftie); while "right" = correct.

But back then, there were restaurants and water fountains labeled "white only." And classified ads would say "help wanted - male" and "help wanted - female" in every newspaper in the US.

Have some things changed? Enough? Are you sure?
Permalink Peter 
March 7th, 2005
In some parts of the world you are expected to eat with your right hand, because the left hand is used to (well never mind). I have well-traveled left handed friends and it just kills them, because the social customs are still very strong.

I believe that in a fairly small number of years, being gay will be as remarkable as being left-handed, or having naturally bright red hair, or having green eyes, or being unusually tall or short. Uncommon perhaps, but not weird, or worthy of any particular comment.
Permalink Calgarian 
March 7th, 2005
"I believe that in a fairly small number of years, being gay will be as remarkable as being left-handed, or having naturally bright red hair, or having green eyes, or being unusually tall or short. Uncommon perhaps, but not weird, or worthy of any particular comment."

Unless you get rid of all 'third-world' countries.
Permalink Rick Tang 
March 7th, 2005
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Funny. My father is left-handed. He writes funny -- with his hand positioned ABOVE the line he's writing, so he can read what he just wrote.
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Actually, it's most likely because that's how _most_ write -- that is, most right-handed people. The text is slanted to the right. This is ESPECIALLY the case with cursive handwriting, and also why it was darn near impossible for me to learn it. My hand kept smearing the text I just wrote. It'd still do that, if it weren't for those wonderful insta-dry pens.

Being left-handed is not "cool". Scissors, knives, potato peelers(most are dual-sided), card games with the suit printed in the left side only, etc.

The ignorance I experience is still amazing. Even in this day and age. "Why are you eating with your knife in your right hand? You're eating wrong. It goes in the left".
Permalink Left-handed person 
March 7th, 2005
<<The ignorance I experience is still amazing. Even in this day and age. "Why are you eating with your knife in your right hand? You're eating wrong. It goes in the left".>>

Oh. I'm right handed, but from the earliest age I was taught "The knife goes in your right hand and the fork in your left." Now if anyone looks at me funny or comments on it when I'm eating (and they do sometimes), I basically just smile and carry on. I have no insecurity about it because I know I am right and they are wrong. Self-confidence can be a wonderful thing. ;-)
Permalink Ian Boys 
March 7th, 2005
The thing that tickles me about watching some people eat is that they'll start with the fork in the left hand, knife in the right to cut their meat. They will put down the knife, pick up their fork in their right hand, eat with it until they need to cut more meat. Much more efficient to learn to eat with the left hand.

And how about mice? How many righties can use a mouse quickly and easily with their left hands?
Permalink Calgarian 
March 7th, 2005
Whenever I try to teach someone guitar, I play left-handed briefly to remind myself how awkward and difficult it is to control your fingers when they're not trained. Unfortunately, I've started to get good at it.

Re: critiquing how people eat

Seriously, efficiency at mealtime? What are you, a drill sergeant?
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 7th, 2005
"How many righties can use a mouse quickly and easily with their left hands?"

I often try to do that when I'm eating and reading the screen at the same time. Sticky fingers on my right hand so I'll move the mouse over to the left and use my left hand. Unfortunately the buttons don't automatically swap sides when you reposition the mouse like that, so clicking is somewhat difficult. I think the mouse should automatically "know" when it's on the left side of the keyboard and swap the buttons over. :-)
Permalink Ian Boys 
March 7th, 2005
Being able to squeeze onto the end of a crowded table is a benefit - particularly when eating with chopsticks though I've never learned whether anyone could be offended by such lefty behaviour. [I do know not to eat with the left hand where it's considered unclean to do so.]

Swapping mice to the left hand is easy, use different fingers (maybe you needed piano lessons).
Permalink trollop 
March 8th, 2005
Using different mouse fingers for the left hand is hard. My brain is wired up so mouse button 1 = index finger, and mouse button 2 = middle finger. It works the same way whether left hand or right hand.

Maybe I did need piano lessons. I never quite worked out how a pianist can make all ten fingers do something different at the same time. :-)
Permalink Ian Boys 
March 8th, 2005
That's because all 10 fingers aren't doing anything different... at least not any more than when you're typing. They're doing 1 thing - playing piano, and until you can get to the point where they're doing 1 thing and not 10 things, piano will be very difficult for you.
Permalink MarkTAW 
March 8th, 2005
Rick,
Going through the threads initiated by you,
It seems you have lot too expectations from your child/children. :)
Permalink Another posters... 
March 8th, 2005
"The knife goes in your right hand and the fork in your left." - I suspect this is one of those UK/US cultural differences we were talking about the other day.

I also suspect Rick is deploying irony - at least I hope so.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
March 8th, 2005
Left handed people are sinister.
Permalink Mr Jack 
March 8th, 2005
Django Reinhard burnt his left hand in a fire at his caravan and lost two fingers. Instead of swapping hands round and using the defective hand to hold the plectrum with, he devised fingering using only the remaining fingers of his left hand.

Bives an idea of how difficult it is to swap round.
Permalink Stephen Jones 
March 8th, 2005

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