Sanding our assholes with 150 grit.

this wouldn't surprise me

The only thing that makes me dubious is that they fucked up when they staged the statue thing, they fucked up staging the Jessica Lynch thing.. why would they have kept trying?
Permalink muppet 
March 10th, 2005
The whole war (bush's wargasm) has been based upon lies. Why expect any of it to be other than staged propaganda pieces?
Permalink Peter 
March 10th, 2005
Whatever. They captured him after a fire-fight in a house, they captured him "huddling in a spider hole". Who cares which way it really happened?

Now, if they'd had him on ice for 6 months, and only "captured" him at the best time for propaganda and election purposes -- THEN I'd be concerned.

And I'm sorry that Sudanese was killed.
Permalink AllanL5 
March 10th, 2005
Allan-

How it happened isn't the issue. If they lied about it and staged an alternate scenario, THAT is an issue.
Permalink muppet 
March 10th, 2005
It's an article from Lebanon, about a Lebanese (an EX-Seargent), saying how it went down. I'm sorry, but the credibility factor on all sides is way too low for me to be too concerned about any differences of opinion, on any side.

But having thought about it, I agree with your Topic header, it really wouldn't surprise me either. Why they'd go to all the trouble to lie about something seemingly so trivial becomes a question then. Not an important question, compared to so many "say one thing do another" issues, but a question.
Permalink AllanL5 
March 10th, 2005
So ONE ex-marine who may or may not have been on the team, oh and who is Labanese says it didn't go down the way we think it did... wow, stunning. I'm sure he has evidence, or someone else to attest to this??? No. Well I'm fucking stunned!

Sorry, but military guys on the front line don't give much a shit about image, so much that they staged the capture.
Permalink Jared M. 
March 10th, 2005
> Why they'd go to all the trouble to lie about something seemingly so trivial becomes a question then.

Perhaps in order to help demoralize any then-remaining-at-large pro-Saddam insurgents? Or to make insurgents question whether their chain of command was as intact as they had thought it was?

If you only accept that ...

a) This is war
b) All is fair in [love and] war
c) War exists in a fog

... then everything is explainable as being either a justifiably correct action, or at the least as being a justifiably mistaken action.
Permalink Christopher Wells 
March 10th, 2005
+++It's an article from Lebanon, about a Lebanese (an EX-Seargent), saying how it went down. I'm sorry, but the credibility factor on all sides is way too low for me to be too concerned about any differences of opinion, on any side.+++

I think it's equally as credible as a guy here saying it. If a guy in the US speaks up about corruption and cover-ups in the government, it stands to reason that he may be "rendered" away in the middle of the night, so fear may shut him up. The guy in Lebanon may feel more secure coming forward.
Permalink muppet 
March 10th, 2005
Muppet, go finish some chapters.

I wanna read the next installment ;)
Permalink Phibian 
March 10th, 2005
I'm getting to it, I swear.

I think you're one of 3 readers so far :P

:)
Permalink muppet 
March 10th, 2005

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