The Price We Pay For Porn
I think most of that is pure nonsense. A woman divorced her husband because she discovered he looked at porn? GET OVER IT. Every man on the planet looks at porn, or would if they had the ability to. Just as every man, with a few freakish exceptions, beat the meat. That's the cold, hard facts ladies).
One thing that I agreed with was the bizarre ultra pleasure that women in porns often portray. Are there men who get off to this clearly fraudulent, ridiculous sounding, usually overdubbed yelping at the first touch? Who the hell is the target audience that gets off on that?
Arguments that our culture is dissolved by lack of draconian regulation of X fall flat with me. You don't heal society by forcing abstention from what you consider immoral. You heal society by educating people and allowing them to make intelligent, mutually beneficial decisions.
Or so I keep telling myself.
April 26th, 2006 9:29am
i don't think the article adds anything new.
it's basically saying that there are costs associated with watching too much porn: expecting instant arousal from women, objectifying the woman's figure, difficulty getting it up for "normal" sex, etc.
the fact of the matter is that porn is poorly done, even high budget porn. i still remember watching some 70s porn and how original some of the scenes were. there was a certain kinkiness to it that's absent from today's downloadable overly repetitive material.
the highest budgest porn movie i've seen recently is called "Pirates". it got high ratings from viewers and the stars in it were certainly very attractive. some of the dialogue was even funny. the problem for me, though, is that the scenes themselves still felt devoid of anything resembling people enjoying themselves having sex. porn sex resembles mutual masturbation, not the "living out" of one's fantasies that i want it to be...
I just wish they would use some kind of science when presenting these stories. You know something along the lines; the brain changes or porn lead people to drink more or do more drugs, something with some kind of numbers to back up their statements. Everything in that piece was something you couldn't prove.
Also, is it really that bad that you can't bang up your wife anymore? Hasnt this been going on for 100s of years. Maybe the wife is really disgusting? I don't know. And what about the actual people making the porn videos; seems like they need more help than those on the outside.
I want to see some stats on japan and pornography; aren't the japanese addicted to porn even show it on regular TV. If it isnt hurting, maybe it isnt hurting us.
"Particularly on the Internet, where much of pornography today is consumed, the type of sexuality depicted often has more to do with violence, extreme fetishes and mutual degradation than with sexual or emotional connection"
Can you prove this? Is this true for 90% of the cases.
"I'd be saying, 'No, her breasts are too small, she's not worth it, then wonder, 'Who have I become? Why am I judging women like this?' "
Is this is a crime here?
April 26th, 2006 10:40am
It's important to be aware of the edge cases, but writing an article about them and suggesting that they're the mainstraem may be going over the edge.
On the other hand, maybe what she's talking about is more common than we (men) think.
On another note: I remember that friends episode where they got free porn and afterwards they would go up to women and were like, "Hmm, I went up to that bank teller and she didn't want to sleep with me?".
April 26th, 2006 10:43am
"aren't the japanese"
I've heard that it's acceptable for a guy to pop out for lunch, have sex with a prostitute, and go home to his wife in the evening. They also have those chat up bars where you basically pay to have an attractive woman talk to you.
It's like... the worst aspects of the porn I've seen on the internet, but in real life.
I would say paying to have a woman talk to you (and not just for dinner) is not the best.
Har har har to your becoming more Denman like.
The author screwed up. She was actually on an interesting line of analysis - about porn affecting marriages due to its interference with expectations in bed. I think that *is* something worth looking into, and could evolve some good advice about being open and honest in relationships, working *with* your partner, compromise, and so on. Couples need to talk about this stuff, but respect each other's desires and boundaries (or else they should think about not being a couple - that's why "no sex until marriage" is insane)
The first half of the article is a refreshing discussion about couples relating to porn in a marriage TOGETHER.
Then she veers off into anecdotal stories about "porn wrecking marriages" simply because Ms. Intolerant discovered her husband likes nudie mags. *That* is the same old shit.
As I mentioned before, when Mrs. Philo ran across my porn stash, she organized it.
>As I mentioned before, when Mrs. Philo ran across my porn
>stash, she organized it.
Now THAT'S love.
"I've heard that it's acceptable for a guy to pop out for lunch, have sex with a prostitute, and go home to his wife in the evening."
Nope. Not that it doesn't happen, but it is considered an unacceptable breach of etiquette. The chat-up and feelie bars are a reality, though.
April 26th, 2006 3:05pm
> As I mentioned before, when Mrs. Philo ran across my porn stash, she organized it.
You treat your wife as your secretary?
"as are bath houses for men, where women "bath" men for money"
Heh heh, oh yeah... 'Souku Randou"... good times, good times...
April 26th, 2006 5:32pm
""You get into a slippery slope," cautions Massachusetts-based psychologist and sex therapist Aline Zoldbrod."
Well, you try to, anyway... ba-dump dump.
Thanks, folks, I'll be here all week!
April 27th, 2006 12:36am
Dear ,..., or whatever the fuck is your name,
Why do you read national post? you lucking sucking on conservative balls of its writers?