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Revealing my dorkness

After many many years of staying away from MMO games, I've been pulled in again. I've been playing Eve Online for 3 days and I'm hooked. It's like Privateer with tens of thousands of human players. Neat neat neat.

Anyone here play?
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
Do you have to 'generate' a character and do dumb quests?
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 17th, 2006
You create a character, but there's only like 4 or 5 steps, most of which involve his/her appearance. After that you can do story missions if you want to (you end up with some nice gear and money if you do) or you can go totally solo from the get go.

You learn skills by having them fed bit by bit into your brain by the ship's computer. The upshot of this is that you can train a skill by simply clicking the next branch in the skill tree you want to pursue and then waiting for the skill to download into your head (which takes a few hours of real time). The benefit to this is that you can click the next skill in the tree, log off if you want to, and when you come back you've got the skill. No grinding.

You can also train while playing, of course. The point is that skill advancement doesn't prevent you from doing whatever in the game is actually FUN for you, instead of killing 40,000 goblins until you get +1 to your ass hair stat.

The meat of the game is actually the player driven economy with local and regional influences, stock/commodities trading, territory disputes, and on and on.

It's actually a very complex game and I'm just getting into it. Some of it is a little repetitive (autopilot from one system to another is a good time to go get a snack) but overall I'm enjoying it.

I'd say if you liked Privateer you'll likely enjoy Eve.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
The catch with the skill thing is that you only start with a few basic skills in your repetoire, and in order to begin training skills you haven't got at least the 1st rank in you have to acquire cartridges (or whatever they are) which contain the skill. The skill cartridges can be expensive, so you've got to find ways to make the cash.

I've just been mining. It's a little monotonous but strangely relaxing. The ship does all the work once you reach the destination. You pick the asteroid you want to harvest and off it goes.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
Also, the other players all seem VERY friendly so far. I mean, there's a few PvPers but they're in the low security sectors and can be avoided almost utterly if you want to.

Everyone else is very helpful and friendly and even go out of their way to help you out, which is really nice considering there's like 20,000-30,000 players on the server (not concurrently usually, but Eve DOES have only one server). I think the game tends to draw the smarter gamers, since it's not twitch/hack/slash but more cerebral. The crowd is really good.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
No grinding sounds good, but all that economy... do you still get to shoot people in the face?
Permalink Flasher T 
January 17th, 2006
Yep if you're confident that your ship is beefy enough you can head out to the outer systems and blow the shit out of people. :)
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
From what I read though its a strategy game in its mechanics, point at target ship if you have more stuff and greater skill you win and that the tactical play comes with interacting with other players.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 17th, 2006
That sounds about right, Simon. It's a very social game. Deals, player controlled corporations, bounties, and so on. There IS some strategy in HOW to outfit your ship, and what weapons to use against what targets at what range. What countermeasures to have on hand, and so on, but combat is pretty much point at target, click on target, and watch the AI take 'em out with the loadout you've set up. You can turn weapons/modules on and off, and regulate your speed and shields and stuff, but it's not hands on "Wing Commander" style combat.

It seems to work. You can play with a mouse and not worry about twitch reflexes.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
Have you paid for an account or are you using a trial?
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 17th, 2006
I'm on a 14 day trial right now but I'm strongly considering subscribing.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
If you go to Evil Avatar there should still be a banner up which offers a link to a 14 day trial. Otherwise you have to download the client and pay $19.95 to "Activate" it, which comes with 30 days of play, with the fee being $13.95/month thereafter.

You can pay in larger increments at a discount, too, if you're really hooked, though I wonder what their refund policy may be if the company goes tits up. :)
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
I once played Runescape. In a few months I got to know why it was called Ruin-scape. It seems to be the only Java stuff that even 6 year old kids can use.
Permalink Vineet Reynolds 
January 17th, 2006
"It's a very social game."

Not so good then. I dislike the notion of putting my gameplay enjoyment in dependance of many other people, because of the empirically proven fact that people are assholes.
Permalink Flasher T 
January 17th, 2006
Well so far Flasher I've avoided talking to anyone at all and I'm still having fun. :) Whether that continues to work remains to be seen. :)

I'd love to just trick out some sort of assault ship with ECM and stealth capability and just lurk around in shipping lanes. Not much need for human interaction, there. :)
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
I play WoW...thats the only one I have and will play. MMO's don't interest me in general.
Permalink Phil 
January 17th, 2006
Phil -

Same goes for me but I love EVE and doubt I could play WoW.
Permalink Generic Error 
January 17th, 2006
I've heard good things about WoW, but I am afraid it might be too well characterized by the following:

http://www.thenoobcomic.com/images/20060115.jpg
Permalink Flasher T 
January 17th, 2006
Hmmm this could a considerable part of my life away. Apart from the crappy chat.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 17th, 2006
The missing verb is 'suck', 'suck'.
Permalink Simon Lucy 
January 17th, 2006

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