atrocity in Cambodia?
Can someone tell me why?
Why is the Holocaust more important than the Pol Pot's
If they are the same in term of atrocity, they should be mentioned at the same time and they should have the same reverence. Otherwise, you are saying Jewish people are above everyone else.
What doesn't happen in Europe?
1. The Viking massacre of native Celts.
2. The Roman massacre of native Celts and others.
I can go on and on.
OK, you are telling me that Jewish people have "special" status.
Does it come with money? Like handing out a bag of money and get a special status?
I'm sure Pol Pot legacy resounds a lot louder in South East Asia. It's all about context, eh?
Holocaust is only important in the USA and Europe.
For the rest of the world it is just a footnote in history.
Not unlike the Khmer Rouge episode for us.
April 18th, 2017 1:15pm
It isn't more important.
Why do you insist on comparing atrocities, and trying to rate them against each other? Is this your attempt to make some atrocities less atrocious than others?
Or is this your attempt, given the focus on the Holocaust since it's Passover, to throw sand in people's eyes by saying "it's not that important, Pol Pot's atrocities were worse"?
All atrocities are bad, okay? Saying one is bad isn't saying another is less bad.
There are more atrocities, between heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Don't demand we list them all before we can oppose even one.
I'm fine with what you said, Hubble. We all need to understand, prevent and condemn evil acts. However, I am against giving out "special victims status". We have to be fair or we have to hand out the Irish special victim status, the Russian special victim status, and so on.
The worst thing that I hate is "ohhh, poor him/her. Take it easy on them. They had 1000 years of persecution". Shit, you can take many different group of people and give them this status; not just the Jewish people!
Strawman. Nobody's saying "Ooh, poor him/her, take it easy on them, they've had 1000 years of abuse!" -- except you. YOU are saying that.
Perhaps some people are saying "You know, anti-semitism has NOT gone away, there's quite a few people thinking Jews run the finances of the world, that it's okay for a country to their south to be lobbing grenades into their territory, that monthly terrorist incidents are something they "just have to put up with", after all, they're Jews."
And then when Jews complain, they say "Aw, buck up, we're not going to let you argue 1000 years of abuse entitles you to ANYTHING! Everyone's Abused!"
But as it's written "There are none so blind, as those who will not see".
I have friends who survived the Nazi death camps, and I also have friends who survived Pol Pot.
They were similar. But there were differences.
Pol Pot the torture was a bit worse. There was more of an interest in causing intense pain. With the Nazis there was more an interest in suffering followed by death.
You just gave away your nationality! You are either a Brit, Aussie, or an Oz.
"Pol Pot the torture was a bit worse. There was more of an interest in causing intense pain. With the Nazis there was more an interest in suffering followed by death."
OTOH I don't think Pol Pot ever intended to wipe out a whole nation (not that trying to eradicate a whole social class is better).
The industrialization of the machinery of death. Killing millions is not a hard task. It becomes an order of magnitude more evil when you take the time and effort to invent "assembly lines of death" to make it more *efficient* to murder lots of people.
Pie is a lot better than ...
April 18th, 2017 11:57pm
Here is my opinion. Here are my values.
Killing 100,000 people is easier, simpler, and less morally problematic than cutting a man's throat by your own hand and watching as he bleeds out.
Do you agree or disagree?
Too easy to do it when you lock people up and pumping in gas. However, the Russian intelligence service prior to the founding of KGB had killed thousand of people by hand. You should have read how the guy in charge did it himself. Talking about evil...but then when it was his turn he cried like a motherfucker!
"However, the Russian intelligence service prior to the founding of KGB had killed thousand of people by hand."
Nazis tried mass murder by shooting people at first too, but realised that it's too emotionally exhausting for the members of the execution squads (Einsatzgruppen). That's why they switched to gassing.