I keep hearing about this Amazon thing. Maybe some day I will try it.

When you go looking for trouble

Don't be surprised if you find it:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/229842

The video at the bottom is intense.
Permalink Shylock 
May 19th, 2017 12:19pm
Jewish guy is driving near a hunger strike protesting political prisoners. He stops his car. The Jewish guy gets out of his car with a GUN and starts FIRING INTO THE CROWD of hunger strikers and protestors.

The crowd then attacks him.

I find their actions reasonable actions of self defense.

I find his action crazed actions of murder and genocide.

I find your defense of him insane.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 2:57pm
How many unarmed Palestinian people did the jewish driver murder in cold blood?

They show a boy laying in the gutter, dead, blood pouring out of his head where the jewish driver shot him.

And you are all gleeful about this aren't you. And angry at the crowd there who then attacked this psychotic jewish lunatic after he murdered children in cold blood.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 3:00pm
So Moataz Bani Shams was murdered by the jewish driver and a journalist was shot and is in the hospital.

The driver was a shitty shot and missed most his other shots before the heros in the crowd managed to disarm and subdue the violent madman.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 3:04pm
The journalist shot by the jewish driver was Majdi Eshtayyeh.


Israeli occupation forces attacked the protesters and defended the settler who killed Bani Shamsa and injured Palestinian journalist Majdi Eshtayyeh. Ma’an News stated that the army “spokesperson said she was unable to comment on whether the Israeli settler had been detained or reprimanded in any way for opening live fire on the Palestinian crowd.” Israeli education minister Naftali Bennett portrayed the settler who murdered Bani Shamsa, shot Eshtayyeh, and then rammed his car into an ambulance coming to assist them, as the victim. The uninjured settler on Palestinian land was “brutally attacked” by the existence of Palestinians on the road throwing stones against the occupying forces on their land, in Bennett’s words; Bennett then claimed that “any one of us…would have acted” as he did in murdering Bani Shamsa as an occupying settler on Bani Shamsa’s land who got out of his car to shoot live fire on Palestinians.

Bani Shamsa is the second Palestinian to be killed by Israeli occupation soldiers or settlers while participating in protests in defense of the prisoners and the fifth Palestinian overall killed by Israeli forces since the beginning of the strike.  Saba Obeid, 22, himself a former prisoner, was killed in Nabi Saleh village by Israeli occupation forces as he participated in a march on 12 May.  Colonial settlers on the road near Huwwara in Nablus celebrated the murder of Bani Shamsa by distributing sweets to other settler cars on the road.

Meanwhile, as the prisoners’ strike for dignity and freedom continued, Israeli occupation forces seized at least 48 Palestinians overnight between Wednesday and Thursday in arrest raids throughout the West Bank.  In Silwad, near Ramallah, occupation forces arrested seven young men and simultaneously demolished the solidarity tent supporting the prisoners’ strike.

As protests continued in support of the prisoners, marchers near Qalandiya refugee camp in Ramallah were attacked on Wednesday night, 17 May, by Israeli occupation forces, shooting live bullets and tear gas at the marchers. In Jerusalem, a sit-in outside the offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross was attacked by occupation forces who seized three participants: Ahmad al-Safadi, director of the Elia Media Group, Mohammed al-Daqqaq and Kayed al-Daqqaq. Areen Zaanin was violently assaulted by Israeli forces and taken to hospital.

As Israeli repression continues to escalate outside the prisons, inside the prisons, the strikers’ health continues to deteriorate. Many strikers are extremely dizzy and fatigues and have difficulty walking or standing, and there are great fears of heart slowdowns or sudden drops in blood pressure. A number of strikers have fainted and some are vomiting blood.

As part of the mass transfer campaign inside Israeli prisons, numerous leaders were once again transferred. Ahmad Sa’adat, the imprisoned General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, fellow PFLP leader Ahed Abu Ghoulmeh, Hamas prison leaders Hassan Salameh and Abbas Sayyed, longest-held Palestinian prisoner Nael Barghouthi and journalist Mohammed al-Qeeq were all transferred from Ohli Kedar prison to Nafha prison, all in isolation. Handala Center for Prisoners and Former Prisoners reported that the health of Sa’adat and al-Qeeq is particularly fragile and requires hospitalization.

International actions also continued in support of the strike. United Nations officials, including Special Rapporteur Michael Lynk, expressed concern about Palestinian prisoners, especially the large-scale use of administrative detention, imprisonment without charge or trial, in violation of international law.

In Spain, climber Carlos Blanca displayed his solidarity with hunger-striking Palestinian prisoners while climbing Aneto Peak, the highest mountain in the Pyrenees, on 17 May.

Chilean Senator Alejandro Navarro spoke about the case of the Palestinian prisoners on hunger strike in parliament, urging action to support their cause.

In Belfast, protesters gathered at the famous International Wall where the Irish republican struggle is highlighted in murals – along with a number of murals in support of Palestine – for a protest in support of the Palestinian prisoners, while in London, activists responded to the call for action to pressure the International Committee of the Red Cross by picketing and delivering a letter to the ICRC’s office, demanding meaningful action for Palestinian prisoners.

In Glasgow, Hellemmes, Belfast, Evry, Chicago, Milan, Buenos Aires, Granada, Sevilla, Manila and Malaga, protests were organized in the last days in support of the strikers. On Friday, 19 May, events and actions are scheduled in Saint-Denis, Brussels, Milan, Cadiz, San Roque, Aravena, Mans, New York City, Berlin, Cagliari, and Copenhagen. A full list of actions around the world is available at the Samidoun website.

http://samidoun.net/2017/05/global-schedule-of-events-to-support-palestinian-prisoners-hunger-strike/
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 3:07pm
You're something else old man. You've become a parody.
Permalink Shylock 
May 19th, 2017 3:11pm
Am I thankful that this didn't happen again? Yes, yes I am:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching
Permalink Shylock 
May 19th, 2017 3:15pm
http://samidoun.net/2017/05/33-days-of-hunger-strike-mass-transfers-of-prisoners-as-colonial-settler-murders-palestinian-protester/


33 Days of Hunger Strike: Mass transfers of prisoners as colonial settler murders Palestinian protester


On Friday, 19 May, Palestinian prisoners entered their 33rd day of the collective hunger strike launched by 1500 Palestinian prisoners – out of a total of over 6300 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli jails –  on 17 April 2017, Palestinian Prisoners’ Day. The strikers are demanding basic human rights, including an end to the denial of family visits, proper medical care and treatment, access to higher education and an end to solitary confinement and administrative detention, imprisonment without charge or trial.

On Thursday, 18 May, the 32nd day of Palestinian prisoners’ collective hunger strike, the Israel Prison Service transferred large numbers of strikers to Beersheva, Shatta and Ramle prisons, concentrating the hunger strikers in prisons that are home to the so-called “field hospitals” created by the prison administration. These prisons are also close to Israeli civilian hospitals. These transfers, however, were carried out via the “bosta” through the arduous transfer process that has been used again and again to put additional stress on the weakened bodies of the strikers in an attempt to undermine their strike.


At the same time that the mass transfers of hunger strikers continued, Israeli occupation forces attacked demonstrations in support of the prisoners’ strike and an illegal Israeli colonial settler murdered one Palestinian protester, Moataz Hussein Bani Shamsa, 23, from the village of Beita near Nablus.

Israeli occupation forces attacked the protesters and defended the settler who killed Bani Shamsa and injured Palestinian journalist Majdi Eshtayyeh. Ma’an News stated that the army “spokesperson said she was unable to comment on whether the Israeli settler had been detained or reprimanded in any way for opening live fire on the Palestinian crowd.” Israeli education minister Naftali Bennett portrayed the settler who murdered Bani Shamsa, shot Eshtayyeh, and then rammed his car into an ambulance coming to assist them, as the victim. The uninjured settler on Palestinian land was “brutally attacked” by the existence of Palestinians on the road throwing stones against the occupying forces on their land, in Bennett’s words; Bennett then claimed that “any one of us…would have acted” as he did in murdering Bani Shamsa as an occupying settler on Bani Shamsa’s land who got out of his car to shoot live fire on Palestinians.

Bani Shamsa is the second Palestinian to be killed by Israeli occupation soldiers or settlers while participating in protests in defense of the prisoners and the fifth Palestinian overall killed by Israeli forces since the beginning of the strike.  Saba Obeid, 22, himself a former prisoner, was killed in Nabi Saleh village by Israeli occupation forces as he participated in a march on 12 May.  Colonial settlers on the road near Huwwara in Nablus celebrated the murder of Bani Shamsa by distributing sweets to other settler cars on the road.

Meanwhile, as the prisoners’ strike for dignity and freedom continued, Israeli occupation forces seized at least 48 Palestinians overnight between Wednesday and Thursday in arrest raids throughout the West Bank.  In Silwad, near Ramallah, occupation forces arrested seven young men and simultaneously demolished the solidarity tent supporting the prisoners’ strike.

As protests continued in support of the prisoners, marchers near Qalandiya refugee camp in Ramallah were attacked on Wednesday night, 17 May, by Israeli occupation forces, shooting live bullets and tear gas at the marchers. In Jerusalem, a sit-in outside the offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross was attacked by occupation forces who seized three participants: Ahmad al-Safadi, director of the Elia Media Group, Mohammed al-Daqqaq and Kayed al-Daqqaq. Areen Zaanin was violently assaulted by Israeli forces and taken to hospital.

As Israeli repression continues to escalate outside the prisons, inside the prisons, the strikers’ health continues to deteriorate. Many strikers are extremely dizzy and fatigues and have difficulty walking or standing, and there are great fears of heart slowdowns or sudden drops in blood pressure. A number of strikers have fainted and some are vomiting blood.

As part of the mass transfer campaign inside Israeli prisons, numerous leaders were once again transferred. Ahmad Sa’adat, the imprisoned General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, fellow PFLP leader Ahed Abu Ghoulmeh, Hamas prison leaders Hassan Salameh and Abbas Sayyed, longest-held Palestinian prisoner Nael Barghouthi and journalist Mohammed al-Qeeq were all transferred from Ohli Kedar prison to Nafha prison, all in isolation. Handala Center for Prisoners and Former Prisoners reported that the health of Sa’adat and al-Qeeq is particularly fragile and requires hospitalization.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 3:26pm
Bwahaha. Here is a Palestinian prisoner suffering from hunger, put forth by a source you trust PC:

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/05/08/watch-jailed-palestinian-terrorist-and-hunger-strike-leader-caught-on-tape-eating/
Permalink Shylock 
May 19th, 2017 3:36pm
Was it the driver who was shooting? The video at the bottom shows some police force.
Permalink Yoda 
May 20th, 2017 5:02am
Yes, it was the driver who was shooting. The army came to rescue him.
Permalink Shylock 
May 20th, 2017 9:38pm
What do you think would happen to him if the cavalry hadn't arrived and he ran out of bullets?
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 4:27am
We know what would have happened. Look up the thread a bit for the Ramallah massacre link.

Last year IIRC some Yeshiva boys made a wrong turn in Hebron and almost got burned to death by the same sort of mob. Fortunately, a righteous Palestinian hid them until the IDF rescued them.

That's an extreme example of what can happen if you rely on Waze or other GPS directions.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 7:48am
Assholes killing assholes.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
May 21st, 2017 8:00am
Does the reverse thing happen sometimes? E.g. a Palestinian takes a wrong turn, enters a Jewish settlement and gets lynched?

Or did the Jews outsource this to IDF snipers?
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 8:56am
>Assholes killing assholes.

Yeah, a Jewish guy going grocery shopping is such an asshole. Listen, just because you're an old country without the will to defend itself, don't shit on others who still have the will to live.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 9:44am
>Does the reverse thing happen sometimes? E.g. a Palestinian takes a wrong turn, enters a Jewish settlement and gets lynched?

No. There's no equivalency.

Not that there's no Jewish terrorism, there is, but like I've said before, to compare the two is equivalent to comparing Canadian gun violence to American gun violence.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 9:47am
In the Ramallah massacre, the guys disemboweled the Jews, then showed their bloody hands to the cheers of the blood-thirsty crowd.

The Palestinians died for me that day.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 9:50am
People were participating in a GLOBAL demonstration against Israeli atrocities and war crimes.

A jewish settler driving by stopped his car and started shooting at the unarmed protestors, killing one boy and sending a renowned journalist to the hospital.

People then attacked the madman.

Shylock is here to defend the action of the madman, who he portrays as the victim.

It's like taking the side of the Columbine shooters.

What the fuck could possibly be wrong with someone that would do some shit like that.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 21st, 2017 11:29am
"Listen, just because you're an old country without the will to defend itself,"

Wrong. He's from an old country which gave up on colonising other nations.

"don't shit on others who still have the will to live."

They do have it, they just don't need to fight a counterinsurgency war because they're not an occupational power anymore.
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 2:06pm
"In the Ramallah massacre, the guys disemboweled the Jews, then showed their bloody hands to the cheers of the blood-thirsty crowd.

The Palestinians died for me that day."

I understand your emotional response, but don't you think that the Arabs blown up by Jewish bombs in 1930s were not disembowelled too?
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 2:07pm
>I understand your emotional response, but don't you think that the Arabs blown up by Jewish bombs in 1930s were not disembowelled too?

Of course. What shattered me was that this was after Oslo. This was after the famous handshake, and the confidence steps, and this was in Ramallah, where they had (and still have) control. I had thought that we were on a road to peace, a rocky road, but a road nonetheless. This savagery showed me what would happen if Israel ever took its foot off their throat. Then the evacuation of Gaza confirmed that. They have created a society that values revenge over success and there's no hope for them to ever give up their dream of genocide. We'll be fighting until Yemai haMoshiach.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 6:44pm
"Wrong. He's from an old country which gave up on colonising other nations."

Israel is not colonizing any other country. Israel is Free, from the River to the Sea (and no, I don't give a shit what the UN or international law says).

"'don't shit on others who still have the will to live.'

They do have it, they just don't need to fight a counterinsurgency war because they're not an occupational power anymore."

Israel is not occupying anyone but that's besides the point. A country that allows this is old and decrepit:

http://www.jta.org/2014/10/06/news-opinion/world/in-heavily-muslim-dutch-neighborhood-a-sukkah-stirs-controversy

The Netherlands were the most compliant subject population the Nazis had in the West. Now, they're keeping up with Sweden in their goal of making themselves dhimmis.

Ironically, today, it's easier and safer to be a Jew in Poland and Russia than in Western Europe.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 6:49pm
I understand Idiot is falling for this crap, but you???
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 8:23pm
"Israel is not colonizing any other country. Israel is Free, from the River to the Sea (and no, I don't give a shit what the UN or international law says)."

Neither did the apartheid regime in SA.
Permalink Yoda 
May 21st, 2017 8:25pm
>I understand Idiot is falling for this crap, but you???

When it comes to Jews in Europe, yes, it's real. That incident was real. The massacres of Jews in France are real. Jews there are actually taking their kids out of public school and putting them into yeshivas for their safety. I've been to several Jewish institutions in Europe, there are Israeli levels of security on those sites.

Arabs really did chant Jews to the Gas in Germany.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 8:44pm
>Neither did the apartheid regime in SA.

Once again, the lazy ass comparison to the Boer regime. Let's look at the differences:

1) Mandela was a partner for peace. Neither Abbas nor Hamas nor Arafat were ever partners for peace.

2) Black South Africans never demanded expulsion nor threatened to murder all White South Africans. Palestinians have done that since 1920.

3) In the name of resistance, Black South Africans never stabbed sleeping teenaged girls, nor ran over infants, nor ax murdered men at prayer, nor stabbed Holocaust survivors. Black South Africans never sent people to blow themselves up in Sbarro's, nor hid explosives in ambulances, nor launched missiles to murder White South Africans. Black South Africans don't torture and murder other Black South Africans who sell land to White South Africans.

Palestinians do all these things.

Palestinians have created a criminal society in both Judea and Samaria and Gaza. Israel non-violently contains the threat with walls, checkpoints and blockades. Israel treats those Palestinians justly.
Permalink Shylock 
May 21st, 2017 9:01pm
What's your point?
Permalink Shylock 
May 22nd, 2017 8:30am
My point is that there are noble victims. If you subject a race or nation to systematic discrimination, they're gonna rebel. And some of them will rebel in criminal, violent, cruel, repulsive and abhorrent ways. It still doesn't mean that the discrimination was OK.

That said, the Jewish-Arab conflict has a more complex history. Turks were involved. And AFAIR most black and white people in RSA have the same religion (Christianity). Which is not the case in Palestine.
Permalink Yoda 
May 22nd, 2017 5:07pm
"there are noble victims" -> "there are few 100% noble victims"
Permalink Yoda 
May 22nd, 2017 5:08pm
Palestine disappeared in 1950.
Permalink Shylock 
May 22nd, 2017 5:27pm
What is ironic is that the Confederates in the US support the freedmen in the ME (the Jews) while the Left in the West support the Confederates (the Palestinians).

But yes, the Zionists were not 100% noble.
Permalink Shylock 
May 22nd, 2017 5:29pm
"Palestine disappeared in 1950."

I wrote all this, and the only thing I get from you in return is an argument about semantics? Pshaw.
Permalink Yoda 
May 23rd, 2017 4:06am
"What is ironic is that the Confederates in the US support the freedmen in the ME (the Jews) while the Left in the West support the Confederates (the Palestinians). "

Please point me where the Palestinians keep their slaves.
Permalink Yoda 
May 23rd, 2017 4:07am
It's not semantics. People talk about Palestine as if it's a real place. It used to be, but it's not anymore.

Actually, the Arab world is full of slaves (there's an active slave market in Benghazi now) but that's a separate issue. My point was that dhimmitude was very similar to jim crow. Jews were niggers in the Arab world, and now they're kicking ass and takng names. When you condemn Israel for freeing itself and keeping itself safe, it's the equivalent of condemning the Freedom Marchers in the US.
Permalink Shylock 
May 23rd, 2017 7:39pm
No, it's not equivalent because freed black people in the USA didn't corral the whites in ghettos, don't assassinate them with snipers, do not destroy their homes and do not evict them from their land.
Permalink Yoda 
May 24th, 2017 3:01pm
It's too bad that they didn't. They would have been so much better off.

Don't forget that the current system of checkpoints, walls and blockades didn't exist before the Palestinians started their campaign of blowing themselves up in public places, much like that lunatic did in Manchester. Palestinians were free to cross the Green Line at will. They deserve to be kept behind these non-violent protective measures.
Permalink Shylock 
May 24th, 2017 4:50pm
What about evictions and bulldozing homes?
Permalink Yoda 
May 24th, 2017 8:46pm
Palestinians torture and kill any fellow Palestinian who sells land to Jews. That said, Palestinians aren't evicted AFAIK; vacant land is taken via eminent domain. Which is something every civilized country does.

Blowing up houses, I think it's time to stop. It's obviously not working, and it just gives our enemies ammunition.
Permalink Shylock 
May 24th, 2017 9:36pm

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