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America and guns

"More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields of all the wars in American history."

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/opinion/lessons-from-the-murders-of-tv-journalists-in-the-virginia-shooting.html
Permalink libtard_uk 
October 6th, 2017 1:28pm
Please itemize the count of people who committed suicide.
Please itemize the count of Black people who killed each other.

Now, what left over numbers are mass murdering event.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 1:35pm
Do you think people who commit suicide don't matter then?
Permalink libtard_uk 
October 6th, 2017 2:02pm
He also thinks black people dont matter.
Permalink MS 
October 6th, 2017 2:09pm
Not anymore than White people.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:11pm
any more
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:11pm
Do you think people who commit suicide don't matter then?
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They do matter but they have their rights. Do you prefer we hand out ropes to them? They are gonna do what they are gonna do.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:12pm
Okay so we can add them back to the count?
Permalink MS 
October 6th, 2017 2:13pm
No
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:14pm
Ching chong nippy nong nong.
Permalink MS 
October 6th, 2017 2:15pm
People who commit suicide don't matter after they're dead, because they can't vote.

People who are going to commit suicide matter, of course.  Because they might not commit suicide.

Guns make it MUCH easier to commit a fatal suicide in one try.  Other methods tend to take longer, require more commitment, allow more time to reconsider.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
October 6th, 2017 2:15pm
How much effort does it take to jump into the river, Hubble?
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:16pm
Or say...a bottle of sleeping pills?
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:16pm
allow more time to reconsider.
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Either you do it or you don't. WTF is reconsidering here...
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:18pm
Depends.  How high is the bridge, how many people stop to see what you're doing, how many cops there are to stop you, how deep the river is below.  Then how badly you're injured when you hit the water, how hard you fight NOT to drown when you discover you don't want to drown.

Whip a .45 out of the glove compartment, 3 seconds later Mission Accomplished.  No time to contemplate the river, the height, the pain, drowning, maybe breaking a leg and NOT drowning.

That's what I'm talking about.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
October 6th, 2017 2:19pm
Guns make it MUCH easier to commit a fatal suicide in one try.  Other methods tend to take longer, require more commitment, allow more time to reconsider.
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I'm sure the thinking is involved weeks or months. The method is irrelevant.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:19pm
Nope, the method matters, that's the point I'm trying to make.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
October 6th, 2017 2:20pm
Then in that case, they should call suicide hotline to chat. The method is irrelevant.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 2:21pm
> Ching chong nippy nong nong

Sidebar
Permalink X 
October 6th, 2017 2:36pm
You have to scale it as a percentage of population.
Permalink Kenny the Robot 
October 6th, 2017 3:55pm
How many suicide victims have you known?

Not statistically significant, but I can think of 4 off the top of my head. One hung himself. One parked her running car in a garage. One shot himself. One overdosed on purpose.

Maybe the gun wielder, my nephew, would have changed his mind if the gun wasn't there. But he threatened a half a dozen times to do it.

Troubled people kill themselves. Rarely is suicide a first-time spur of the moment reaction.
Permalink Legion 
October 6th, 2017 5:38pm
> A study by the Harvard School of Public Health of all 50 U.S. states reveals a powerful link between rates of firearm ownership and suicides. Based on a survey of American households conducted in 2002, HSPH Assistant Professor of Health Policy and Management Matthew Miller, Research Associate Deborah Azrael, and colleagues at the School’s Injury Control Research Center (ICRC), found that in states where guns were prevalent—as in Wyoming, where 63 percent of households reported owning guns—rates of suicide were higher. The inverse was also true: where gun ownership was less common, suicide rates were also lower.
Permalink Stats 
October 6th, 2017 9:47pm
Have you ever been to Wyoming?

You would kill yourself too if you lived there.
Permalink Legion 
October 6th, 2017 10:28pm
Cognitive dissonance hits Legion
Permalink Stats 
October 7th, 2017 4:11pm
Just making a point that there are factors involved in the suicides other than gun availability.

Casper is the most windy town in the U.S.  it has a very high suicide rate. Therefore wind contributes to suicide.
Permalink Legion 
October 8th, 2017 9:47am
Everything is impossible to know therefore I'll just hang on to my opinions as is.
Permalink X 
October 8th, 2017 10:51am

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