Bill Clinton's sex crimes
Hillary has publicly stated that all claims by women should be believed unconditionally.
What could go wrong?
Yes, she did:
Although I understand the video has been deleted from her website.
> Hillary has publicly stated that all claims by women should be believed unconditionally.
> You have a right to be believed.
What's it like to be a lying sack of shit, Qaz?
>Hillary has publicly stated that all claims by women should be believed unconditionally.
What she neglected to mention is "...but only if they are not accusing my husband of sexual harassment or assault".
This is like a bad penny:
Fucking liberal writers feel that they need to jump on the band wagon and can't do 2 minutes of googling.
No. He was a pig. I wouldn't want any of my daughters to work for him. But his affairs were consensual things, he didn't rape anyone. And what consenting adults do with their own money on their own time is none of my, or anyone else's fucking business.
I wished Anthony Weiner had said that when Breitbart (the actual guy) reported what he saw through the keyhole.
In particular Monica has said repeatedly that it was completely consensual on her part.
BTW, The Nation is and was a socialist magazine. I actually got the issue that the Willey investigation was printed in.
Years of excusing Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct suddenly seems morally indefensible.
The new version was, “the personal is political unless the person in question embraces my politics.”
Clinton himself raised this argument when he told his cabinet in August of 1998 that his earlier assurances of innocence in the Lewinsky affair were false. His Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, upbraided him for his conduct, and noted that had he been a professor at the university she once ran, he would have been bounced for such conduct.
To which Clinton replied, according to the Washington Post, “that if her logic had prevailed in 1960, Richard M. Nixon would have been elected president instead of John F. Kennedy.”
This is, you may recognize, the mirror image of the argument Trump’s supporters made to skeptics, and what Moore’s supporters are making even as their man takes serious incoming fire. The political defense of Moore goes like this: “If Moore loses, that’s one less vote for tax cuts, conservative judges, traditional values. (Well, they might want to shelve that one). We can’t let our problems with personal conduct override the enormous political stakes.”
That's the thing. Is it misconduct to conduct a consensual affair?
Bill's affair with Monica wast exactly two consenting adults engaging in a mutually rewarding relationship. There was a wildly inappropriate power structure at play.
Some people are into those kind of things. I don't judge.
In any event it wasn't rape, and it really wasn't our business.
It wasn't rape. But It would be grounds for dismissal in any number of organizations.
> But It would be grounds for dismissal in any number of organizations.
The organisations that favour tight mind control.
November 15th, 2017 9:23am
This conversation is a perfect example of the extreme partisanship of US politics.
Democrats like Shylock believe in every accusation against Trump and defend every action of Clinton.
Republicans like Idiot believe in every accusation against Clinton and defend every action of Trump.
I don't defend everything either Clinton or Obama has done.
Last I knew, being a dick wasn't a crime.
If it was, we'd all be posting from jail.
Do you think that every man who tries to get into someone else's pants is a predator?
If he's a handsome hunk then he's just flirting, if he's an ugly fucker then he's a predator.
"Do you think that every man who tries to get into someone else's pants is a predator?"
No. But if he tries to get into the pants of one of his subordinates, then he is a sexual predator. If he gropes a woman, then he is a sexual predator. Etc.
>But if he tries to get into the pants of one of his subordinates, then he is a sexual predator.
Unless you think that women are children incapable of adult agency.
That's not the point, Shylock. The point is that he has power over them.
Adult agency alone doesn't pay the bills.
Anyway, rape is definitely the behaviour of a sexual predator, and Juanita Broderick's accusations seem credible also to liberal commentators: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/juanita-broaddrick-bill-clinton.html