That's what she said !

The EU are happy about the Brexit negotiations

I am deeply suspicious.
Permalink Nigel Farage 
December 4th, 2017 7:00am
Ireland is still not satisfied over its border arrangements.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 4th, 2017 7:02am
Mogg has stated that he sees no reason to have any particular border controls in Ireland, but the Irish government are free to do whatever they like.
Permalink Mogg for PM 
December 4th, 2017 7:08am
> Mogg has stated that he sees no reason to have any particular border controls in Ireland...

Yeah, we know what that kind of statements are worth.
That is Boris Johnson kind of stupidity.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 4th, 2017 7:24am
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42217735

UK and EU fail to strike Brexit talks deal

"But the DUP, which has a deal with the Conservatives to keep Mrs May in power at Westminster, warned it would not back any agreement which threatened the territorial integrity of the UK."
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 4th, 2017 10:40am
DUP needs to be shown their place.
Permalink Yoda 
December 4th, 2017 3:23pm
> DUP needs to be shown their place.

Yes, London always like to trade other peoples interests for her own profit.

Everybody knew that this was coming, in fact they have always stated their position on this point, but those stupid English were hardly able to even focus on one issue at the time.

But no, they just denied that this would become an issue until the deadline.

England wants a border with the EU, Ireland doesn't want it on their island, and the Ulsters don't want it in the Irish Sea.

So that own fault line in the UK is coming to bite them again.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 4th, 2017 4:28pm
And the whole problem was literally created by the Bankers.

The Bank of England was founded to fund King Billy to execute a coup in England, and send protestant Scots to Ulster as colonists.

It was the capitalist takeover of the British Isles.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 4th, 2017 5:09pm
*Dutch* bankers.
Permalink Yoda 
December 4th, 2017 5:37pm
Turns out May tried to sneak a total betrayal of Northern Ireland past the DUP.

Ireland was attempting to annexe NI on the pretext of avoiding the need for border controls.

As Mogg has repeatedly pointed out, he and the DUP regard NI as being as British as Somerset.
Permalink Mogg for PM 
December 5th, 2017 2:07am
The funny thing is the majority of the British don't give a shit about NI and would be quite happy for it to join the republic if that's what they want.
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 5th, 2017 2:12am
I wonder where we go now, Norway style deal?
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 5th, 2017 2:12am
>I wonder where we go now, Norway style deal?

The key aspects of Brexit are generally regarded to be:

  Ending free movement of people
  Ending the power of the ECJ

A Norway style deal would not deliver this.

...But I think this is what we'll end up getting under May.

May is a complete sellout to the EU.
Permalink Mogg for PM 
December 5th, 2017 3:37am
May needs to go.  Such delusion to think she could get this past the DUP or her own party.
Permalink MobyDobie 
December 5th, 2017 4:19am
If you look at May's track record she has totally fucked up everything she has tried to do:

  Limiting immigration
  The General Election
  Brexit
Permalink Mogg for PM 
December 5th, 2017 4:33am
> *Dutch* bankers.

The founders were bankers from London and Edinburgh.

But the bankers are polyglot, in Holland they arrived from Antwerp when it fell to the Spanish, and Portuguese Jews, and Lombards from Northern Italy.

They just move to the current financial centre, which in Western Europe was Bruges in the Middle Ages, then the Burgundy Dukes got annoyed with the Flemish burghers and gave the monopolies to Antwerp, then Amsterdam for a century and then London when Billy's project became successful.

Bankers are like you, always moving to the biggest pirate nest for the profit.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 5:12am
The BBC are being incredibly biased in their reporting of this issue (as usual):

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42231497
Permalink Mogg for PM 
December 5th, 2017 5:18am
"Former top Foreign Office official Lord Ricketts said the row was "damaging" for Mrs May, adding that it was "pretty extraordinary that this wasn't all stitched up with the DUP beforehand"."

That is the point.

All of this has been know for ages, but the English arrogance just pretended it didn't exist, like all the other specifics.

"Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said that if Northern Ireland was allowed to operate under different rules there was "surely no good practical reason" why other parts of the UK could not do the same - a message echoed by Welsh First Minister Carwyn Jones and London Mayor Sadiq Khan."
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 6:43am
It's not English arrogance,  it's May's poor leadership.

If Boris or Gove was leader, there'd be no deal, no payment, and a hard border plus WTO.

If spreadsheet Phil had been leader,  there would be the EEA.

Either way, everybody knows where they stand,  and no last minute embarrassment when the deal falls apart, because you've double crossed and blind sided your key political ally.
Permalink MobyDobie 
December 5th, 2017 7:06am
If Boris was leader we would end up staying, he would turn on a sixpence once he recognised the implications of leaving.
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 5th, 2017 7:13am
>The BBC are being incredibly biased in their reporting of this issue

Those bloody journalists should just tow the line and publish the official propaganda, how dare they question the elected government and try and hold them to account.
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 5th, 2017 7:14am
May is inept, I had some sympathy for her for a long time but what she just did was idiotic. Politicians never get involved in a negotiation until it is complete, they turn up to sign a bit of paper after everything has been nailed down not before.
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 5th, 2017 7:17am
"Bankers are like you, always moving to the biggest pirate nest for the profit."

Then why am I not moving to Asia? This is where the fun in banking is now.
Permalink Yoda 
December 5th, 2017 7:56am
comment lifted from one of  The Guardian contributors

This border question sounds like one of those cruel puzzles you give to kids in exams only to realise there is no feasible answer (well, not in this reality anyway);

– GB must have a hard border with Europe

– GB must not have a hard border with Northern Ireland

– Iron must not have a hard border with Republic O’ Ireland and

– Republic of Ireland must not have a hard border with Europe

Explain and show your workings.
RobRoy1975
Permalink tablet trollop 
December 6th, 2017 8:07am
In other news it turns out David Davis has been bullshitting us all along: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42249854
Permalink libtard_uk 
December 6th, 2017 11:12am
"He said the government had produced a "sectoral analysis" of different industries but not a "forecast" of what would happen when the UK leaves the EU."

He's right.
Permalink Yoda 
December 6th, 2017 6:20pm
"This border question sounds like one of those cruel puzzles you give to kids in exams only to realise there is no feasible answer (well, not in this reality anyway);

– GB must have a hard border with Europe

– GB must not have a hard border with Northern Ireland

– Iron must not have a hard border with Republic O’ Ireland and

– Republic of Ireland must not have a hard border with Europe

Explain and show your workings.
RobRoy1975"

This is one of those problems which crush you with insoluble logic on paper, but may turn out to be perfectly solvable in real life. Because what matters is making people feel that they've got what they need, not meeting some abstract definition of "hard border".

I'm confident they'll come up with something acceptable for all parties.
Permalink Yoda 
December 6th, 2017 6:23pm

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