Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

Poll: Majority says Congress should investigate sexual harassmen

Poll: Majority says Congress should investigate sexual harassment allegations against Trump

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363562-poll-majority-says-congress-should-investigate-sexual-harassment
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 8:07pm
Well, duh.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 7th, 2017 8:28pm
Don't be an asshole, Hubble
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 8:30pm
> Republicans and Democrats differ on the issue. Just 39 percent of Republicans say they think Congress should look into the allegations against Trump, compared to 86 percent of Democrats who feel the same way. Another 67 percent of registered Independents polled agreed Congress should look into the allegations.
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 8:30pm
Because when you're that famous, you can grab them by the pussy and get away with it.  If you're a Republican.  Maybe BECAUSE you're a Republican.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 7th, 2017 8:34pm
Hubble, respectfully, could you never post in any of my threads ever? THANKS!
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 8:38pm
I don't think you understand the concept of an online forum.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 7th, 2017 8:40pm
Explain. Is there is some reason you can't see "X" as the OP and spread your inanity elsewhere?
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 9:15pm
Hubble, I don't think you understand the concept of a broken record.
Permalink , Cup 
December 7th, 2017 11:19pm
> Forty-seven percent of women nationwide say they have been sexually assaulted

That's high. The figure is usually around a third.
Permalink , Cup 
December 7th, 2017 11:22pm
Maybe another sign of a shift in the culture?

Alternatively, your third memory is a bit low?

2015 National Sexual Violence Resource Center [1] 46.4% lesbians, 74.9% bisexual women and 43.3% heterosexual women reported sexual violence other than rape during their lifetimes



[1] https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 11:53pm
About 17% of women have experienced sexual assault after the age of 15 and about 12% have experienced sexual abuse before the age of 15.

https://aifs.gov.au/publications/nature-and-extent-sexual-assault-and-abuse-australia
Permalink , Cup 
December 8th, 2017 4:34am
2012.

Perhaps the difference is due to different countries? I don't know. Not claiming we're better.
Permalink , Cup 
December 8th, 2017 4:37am
X's NSVRC article cites this study as its source for their numbers:

Walters, M.L., Chen J., & Breiding, M.J. (2013).
The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS): 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation.

https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_SOfindings.pd

> 404 We are sorry, the page you are looking for was not found.

.. duckduckgo ...

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf

Oh seriously? They changed their server to be case sensitive?

... anyway ...

Executive Summary p7

> The lifetime prevalence of
sexual violence other than
rape (including being made
to penetrate, sexual coercion,
unwanted sexual contact,
and non-contact unwanted
sexual experiences) by any
perpetrator was:

For   
women

-
Lesbian – 46.4% 
-
Bisexual – 74.9% 
-
Heterosexual – 43.3% 
For   
men

-
Gay – 40.2% 
-
Bisexual – 47.4% 
-
Heterosexual – 20.8% 



NOTICE: "non-contact unwanted sexual experiences" is included in "sexual violence". No doubt this and "unwanted contact" including hugs and shoulder pats is the vast majority of "violence" found.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 4:42am
False alarm on the case sensitivity, left of the f in pdf.

https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_SOfindings.pdf
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 4:44am
Sexual violence includes "stalking" and stalking includes "receiving unwanted text messages".
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 4:46am
Non-contact unwanted sexual experiences was defined in such a way as to include catcalling. So if you answer you have ever in your life been catcalled, then you are among the 75% of women who have experienced "sexual violence" in their lifetime.

That's the findings report. In a footnote it mentions the actual methodology is found in the summary report but doesn't link to it. I found it here.

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

That includes text of the questions in the appendices.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 4:51am
Table 1 of findings breaks things down.

Let's look at rape, attempted rape, and consensual sex under the influence of alcohol, all which they categorize as "rape".

For lesbians they don't have any statistically significant numbers so they have an estimate.

For bisexuals they have numbers for rape and alcohol consent.

For hetero they have all 3 numbers.

Rape: 11.4% lifetime incidence for hetero women
Attempted rape: 5.1% lifetime incidence
Consensual alcohol sex: 7.6% incidence
Total: 17.4% of hetero women have been "raped" in their life.

In "other sexual violence" we see that "non-contact unwanted sexual experiences" such as catcalling has a 32.4% incidence for hetero women and 62.9% incidence for bisexual women.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 4:56am
Sheesh, the questions. TIL I am many times a victim of sexual violence. Poor me.

If you have what you thought was consensual sex with someone who has told you lies, made promises about the future, or ever threatened to leave, then it's non-consensual sex and you are a rape victim.

If you have what you thought was consensual sex with someone who repeatedly requested sex, or who you had sex with them because they were unhappy and you thought sex would make them happen, then it's non-consensual sex and you are a rape victim.

If you are at someone's house and they put on an R rated movie and it has a sex scene and you didn't give consent to see that sex scene, then you are a victim of non-contact unwanted sexual experience, which is a category of sexual violence.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 5:19am
>32.4% incidence for hetero women and 62.9% incidence for bisexual women

So either the catcalling men could discriminate between hetero and bisexual women AND deliberately targeted the bisexual women

...or...

Bisexual women find catcalling men more annoying than hetero women do?
Permalink Geoffrey Miller 
December 8th, 2017 5:39am
Yeah interesting huge difference on that category, right?

Maybe bisexual women are just hotter or dress better so attract more attention?!?

The category also includes stuff like seeing a flasher, but I think getting flashed is pretty rare these days. Also could include receiving nudes in an electronic message, like supposedly every woman on reddit receives every day via pm. I agree that's harassment, but I don't agree with this methodology that it is "violence".
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 6:07am
>getting flashed is pretty rare these days

Isn't that pretty much what Weinstein was doing?
Permalink Zaq 
December 8th, 2017 6:35am
I don't have the document open any more, but I think the question referred to incidences in a public place with a stranger.

Someone you know appearing naked and requesting a massage in his hotel room I think would be a different category from public flashing, but yeah, nude Weinstein would be in one of the categories I'm pretty sure.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 8th, 2017 8:05am

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