Nobody likes to be called a dummy by a dummy.

People don't imitate things they see in the media.

Nope. Never. Just doesn't happen. People who believe that are either sheltered or just stupid. Right, muppet?

Do you think they're as stupid as this kid?

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?submitDate=200538182029
Permalink Kyralessa 
March 9th, 2005
umm....im not sure that actually blaming the media for this is reasonable? the kid was looking around for some foul trick to play on someone....with or without the movie hes going to find *something*

<g> in fact, when I was a youngster I was a victim of someones idea of a prank....chocolate covered dog biscuits at a party after the alcohol had been flowing...we all enjoyed them hugely, me in particular.

once the gag was uncovered a bunch of us got together and came up with some revenge, we waited until sometime later in the evening when all and sundry were pretty plastered and placed a sheet of transparent plastic over the bowl under the toilet seat.

foull foul; foul;

I never realised drunk people could care so little about such mess...it took 2 years for the smell of various bonily substances to dissipate.

It was only noticed because someone finally made it to the toilet to throw up and wondered why everything bounced.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 10th, 2005
If the media had no effect on people, why are advertisements so useful? ;) No sane person thinks they're informative -- if you wanted real information on a product, the last thing you'd usually look for is a TV commercial.

And why do people think that sending Mideasterners our commercials will civilize them? Because, we all know the media has an obvious effect, even when we're conscious about it.
Permalink Tayssir John Gabbour 
March 10th, 2005
<g> there *is* a difference between saying "people imitate things they see in the media" and "seeing things in the media affects people"
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 10th, 2005
For a concrete example, I don't think watching CSI turns anyone into an axe-murderer. I do think watching CSI could give an axe-murderer ideas.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
March 10th, 2005
...and before anyone asks I did seee "Wire in the Blood" this week but it didn't remember it until after that post.
Permalink a cynic writes... 
March 10th, 2005
here in new zealand they have apparently stopped anti-suicide type support classes in school...they were originally promoting them strongly but evidence slowly came out that maybe actually suicides tended to spike around them.
Its not a legal ban so much as a voluntary ban by schools...its still not entirely sure but pending further studies many schools are cutting back.

<g> not sure which side of the argument that point comes down on.
Permalink FullNameRequired 
March 10th, 2005
Kyra -

Please point me to the post where I said nobody imitates the media.

Anyway as others have said, you have to have the propensity to be an idiot first. No "bad" video game is going to suddenly turn a child into a serial killer.
Permalink muppet 
March 10th, 2005
If a person imitates a stupid act in a movie is it (a) the movie's fault or (b) the fault of the person who made a really stupid decision ?

Given that only complete morons think the answer is 'a', what's the point of the post? To advocate the banning of bad things, or to advocate the banning of stupidity?


> not sure which side of the argument that point comes down on.

It comes down on the "we're morons" side of the argument.

There are good ways and bad ways to reduce suicide, but the whole "oh we mustn't ever talk about it" is simply retarded.

How many suicidal kids are going to think "well, maybe I could talk to someone, but I've been told that it's wrong to ever mention it so obviously there's something wrong with me and I'ld be better off dead" ?

Hell, if so many kids are in such a bad way that merely mentioning suicide makes them want to be dead then there's obviously something terribly wrong, and just ignoring the problem is probably one of the worst options available.

On the other hand, maybe morons aren't the best people to be helping kids with serious problems. Anti-suicide classes run by people who can make suicide seem cool just isn't a good thing.  :)
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