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Trump's Netherlands ambassador struggles

Wednesday’s press conference was not Hoekstra’s first awkward exchange with a Dutch reporter. Asked last month about his “no-go zones” remark, Hoekstra denied having ever made it, calling it “fake news.” Then presented with video of himself making the remarks, Hoekstra denied having used the term “fake news” even though he had just moments earlier.
Permalink Q 
January 11th, 2018 6:40am
There have been calls for an urgent debate in the Dutch parliament about the integration of Muslim immigrants amid claims that one area of The Hague, known locally as “the Sharia triangle”, is being run by a form of unofficial Sharia police.
Permalink Rafael Sabatini 
January 11th, 2018 6:58am
That is a neighbourhood where the majority is Muslim.

It is certainly not a no-go area. I have been there on several occasions.

Such neighbourhoods have many children, with boys hanging out on the streets, often up to no good, but compared to footage of what I have seen of poor neighbourhoods of American inner cities, they are still a heaven of tranquillity.

Because those groups of teenage boys can be a nuisance when they are not kept in check by social control, some Muslim organisations have set up some kind of 'civil guard' units.

Of course those guards bring their own backwards culture with them, and they warn not only naughty boys, but also unchaste girls. So for modern Dutch women they are as bad as the unsupervised boys.

But they have no formal authority at all, and it is nonsense to speak of Sharia law. It is their local effort to prevent criminal organisations to rule the streets.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
January 11th, 2018 7:25am
Poor Lotti, deluded as ever, by the time you wake up you'll be a minority in your own country.
Permalink Zaq 
January 11th, 2018 7:43am
Zaq has shown before that he doesn't understand numbers.

He counts noise instead of people.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
January 11th, 2018 7:56am
Btw. I mentioned this fine chap before
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
January 11th, 2018 7:57am
It's fake news that it's fake news. Will they apologize to our ambassador?

Dutch anxiety over ‘Sharia triangle’ police no-go area in The Hague

Area two kilometres from city centre has become ‘orthodox Muslim territory’ largely ignored by authorities

There have been calls for an urgent debate in the Dutch parliament about the integration of Muslim immigrants amid claims that one area of The Hague, known locally as “the Sharia triangle”, is being run by a form of unofficial Sharia police.

The claims relate to the district of Schilderswijk, about two kilometres from the city centre, where an almost entirely Muslim population of some 5,000 people surrounds the El Islam mosque, fuelling criticism that the government has failed to ensure a proper ethnic mix in schools and local housing. One recent investigation, in which local people were extensively interviewed, concluded that Schilderswijk had become “orthodox Muslim territory” which was now largely ignored by the city authorities, by politicians and even by the police, on the grounds that it had become self-regulating.

The investigation found that orthodox Muslims had become so dominant that they were dictating what people in the neighbourhood wore and how they behaved.

“The norms of the majority are beginning to take over,” it said.

In the case of women, dress was a particular issue. One woman told how her daughter had been approached and told her short skirt was inappropriate, while her son had been called a “kaffir” – a racist term formerly used in colonial South Africa to refer to a black person – for smoking.

A youth who had previously been involved in local gangs said that criminality had dropped off, not because of the police, but because he and his friends were “afraid of the wrath of Allah”.
Another man said he felt he was gradually being driven out of his home because he had a dog, and many traditional Muslims tended not to keep or favour dogs.

A veiled Muslim woman, however, defended Islamic practices, and said dressing modestly would “do the locals good”. She pointed out that women in the Dutch ultra-conservative, largely Protestant, Bible Belt also wore long dresses, and that shops there were closed on Sunday – as many in Schilderswijk were on Fridays.

Local police chief Michel de Roos said: “We have no indications there is a form of Sharia police here. That is not to say it does not happen, but we are unaware of it.”

Last Tuesday, social affairs minister Lodewijk Asscher and right-wing Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders paid separate visits to the area, and are to report to parliament.

As no-go zones riot, the next Dutch government could be more leftist
The Netherlands is a country where the Muslim community shows few signs of integration. There are now FORTY no-go zones, in which constant rioting take place, most recently in Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Nijmegen and Veldhoven.

The government has RELEASED the list of 40 “no-go” zones, mostly Islamic.

The Kolenkit area in Amsterdam is the number one Muslim “problem district” in the country. The next three districts are in Rotterdam – Pendrecht, het Oude Noorden and Bloemhof. The Ondiep district in Utrecht is in the fifth position, followed by Rivierenwijk (Deventer), Spangen (Rotterdam), Oude Westen (Rotterdam), Heechterp/ Schieringen (Leeuwarden) and Noord-Oost (Maastricht).

The Dutch police had to break up an illegal and violent religious protest this weekend by Etritreans in Veldhoven.

The Dutch public broadcaster NOS television reported that the Netherlands has become one of the major European suppliers of Islamic jihadists. According to NOS, about 100 Dutch Muslims are active as jihadists in Syria, and most have joined the notorious Jabhat al-Nusra group.

According to the Hungarian government there are 900 areas across the EU where “the norms of the host society barely prevail” due to increased levels of migration.

The French government has listed 750 areas determined to be “Sensitive Urban Zones (Zones Urbaine Sensibles, or ZUS).” ZUS areas tend to have high crime, low unemployment, and drug trafficking/black market issues.

Germany’s Steinke Institut (SI) has mapped 51 separate areas which have been explained as “law-free” and with “high danger potential”. In 2011 Chief Police Commissioner Bernhard Witthaut, in an August 1 interview with the newspaper Der Westen, revealed that Muslim immigrants are imposing “no-go” zones in cities across Germany at an alarming rate.

Some regions in Russia are known as hotbeds for radical Islam, including Chechnya and Dagestan, which are “virtual no-go zone” for Russians and tourists.

In Italy, Muslims have been commandeering the Piazza Venezia in Rome for public prayers, and in Bologna, Muslims repeatedly have threatened to bomb the San Petronio cathedral because it contains a 600-year-old fresco inspired by Dante’s Inferno which depicts Mohammed being tormented in hell.

In 2014, 2015 and 2016, Islamists demonstrated and shouted slogans in support of the Islamic State. One area of The Hague, known locally as “the Sharia triangle”, is being run by a form of unofficial Sharia police.

Meanwhile Dutch AFA (“anti-fascist”) socialists use every opportunity to create riots, and they team up with radical Islamists to do so.

In the district of Schilderswijk, about two kilometres from The Hague’s city centre, an almost entirely Muslim population of some 5 000 residents surrounds the El Islam mosque. Dutch-born citizens are repeatedly attacked by foreigners in these zones. The perpetrators are often so sure of their impunity that they publish online videos of their crimes.

But local police chief Michel de Roos told the Irish Times in 2013: “We have no indications there is a form of Sharia police here. That is not to say it does not happen, but we are unaware of it.”

Non-Muslim residents often say they feel harassed even in taking care of their pets. In Islam dogs are considered haram (impure), and dog owners are asked to keep their pets indoors.

The percentage of Muslims jailed for various crimes is notably higher than the percentage of Muslims in the population. Six percent of the country’s population are Muslim, but some 20 percent of all inmates are Muslim.

The Washington Post, 29 April 2008, reported, ironically that research by the George Soros Open Society Institute, an advocacy group for open borders, shows that in the Netherlands 20 percent of adult prisoners and 26 percent of all juvenile offenders are Muslim, while the country is about 5.5 percent Muslim.

Labour (PvdA) leader Diederik Samsom said in September 2011 in NRC Handelsblad that Moroccans have acquired “an ethnic monopoly” of certain forms of crime.

According to the local Amsterdam newspaper Het Parool, young Moroccans continue their “unstoppable march to become the largest group of violent criminals” in the country, despite decades of government programs aimed at steering young Muslims away from a life of crime.

Research done in 2014, found that more than 1200 youth gangs are active in the Netherlands, and about 300 of these gangs are extremely violent. The Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice, who ordered the report, said the gangs were Moroccan youths.

The researchers suggest that one in five members of the investigated violent gangs were retarded or even slightly mentally disabled. They had an average IQ of between 70 and 85. In this study, the criminologists believe many have an IQ below 75.

But while the culture clash continues, the VNL, a conservative party established by two former Party for Freedom members, was beaten so severely during the past elections, that it will have no seat at all. Only Geert Wilders’ PVV have aquired slightly more seats.

Wilders was charged and found guilty of “hate speech” because he had singled out Moroccans as group prone to criminal behaviour.

The next Dutch government will be a coalition of four parties, maybe five, and probably lean more to the left than previous governments. It will certainly include Democrats 66, and could include the far-left Groenlinks.
Permalink Reality Check 
January 11th, 2018 9:08am
Lotti will just dismiss all this as fake news.

Just as he dismisses the facts about hydrogen vs. EVs.

All facts contrary to his views are dismissed as fake even when the very article he references admits that electrolysis efficiency won't reach 75% until 2030 at best and even then the total efficiency will still only be 1/3 of EVs.

And then he has the arrogance to accuse others of not understanding the numbers.
Permalink Zaq 
January 11th, 2018 9:29am
Zaq means asshole in Dutch.

Just a little interesting fact.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
January 11th, 2018 9:36am
Please don't fight. Let talk about something else. Please tell me what is a modern Dutch woman like?
Permalink AlFranken 
January 11th, 2018 9:40am
Ah Lotti, when he doesn't like the facts he starts with the insults. What a child.
Permalink Zaq 
January 11th, 2018 9:58am
Zaq, what is the point of you?
Permalink library_uk 
January 11th, 2018 2:13pm
"This is the netherlands. You have to answer questions"
Permalink C 
January 11th, 2018 10:08pm
To be clear, his original statement made in 2015 was:

The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos. Chaos in the Netherlands. There are cars being burned, there are politicians that are being burned, and yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands"
Permalink NewsBot 
January 12th, 2018 1:33am
Analysing this in bits:

The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos

Probably true

It is the major cause of the rise of the right wing, never a
good idea, especially in Germany, Austria or Italy.

Chaos in the Netherlands

I have no idea, there are claims to this effect

There are cars being burned

Not clear where he is referring to
Possible not true in the Netherlands, I don't know
Definitely true around Paris
Definitely true in Malmo

There are politicians that are being burned

Not clear what he means here
If he means literally then I don't know of any!
If he means politically then it's true (eg. Merkel)

There are no-go zones in the Netherlands

I have no idea, there are claims to this effect
Permalink Rafael Sabatini 
January 12th, 2018 10:10am
Analysis: Sabatini doesn't have a clue.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
January 12th, 2018 10:56am

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