Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

What's special about this house?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3779342,-80.7749186,3a,60y,137.76h,95.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ0YxFl0WBJl85T1Qh6oLVA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's the registered address for Hwaci, which is the company that pays the development costs for Sqlite.

> Hwaci is a small company but it is also closely held and debt-free and has low fixed costs, which means that it is largely immune to buy-outs, take-overs, and market down-turns. Hwaci intends to continue operating in its current form, and at roughly its current size until at least the year 2050. We expect to be here when you need us, even if that need is many years in the future.

$75,000 a year gets your company Consortium Membership, which includes 23 days of consulting time.  That's $407/hr. And I think they're under-charging.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
March 12th, 2018 1:16pm
Doesn't Chrome use SQLite for its data storage?
Permalink Rafael Sabatini 
March 12th, 2018 1:31pm
Nobody is there--It's valentine's day and they still have a christmas wreath up.  No cars in the driveway for two years (overhead maps dated 2018,  street view dated 2016.

https://goo.gl/maps/36tLr41qnnH2
Permalink oh-yeah 
March 12th, 2018 1:44pm
Basically, it is a self-employed husband and wife. It is mainly the husband who has a PhD in CS. The wife is useless but she just rides along.
Permalink DrNo 
March 12th, 2018 1:51pm
> That's $407/hr. And I think they're under-charging.

Why do you think so?
Permalink X 
March 12th, 2018 9:00pm
If you're a large company where you depend on this as a key piece of software (Sqlite is used all throughout Apple products), $75k is pocket change.

They should charge what the market will support for their high-end offering.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
March 12th, 2018 9:37pm
I mean no doubt $75K is small change, but at $409 / hour apple can hire three guys on site at 250K each and still save money. Think dude. Think.
Permalink X 
March 12th, 2018 10:48pm
>I mean no doubt $75K is small change, but at $409 / hour apple can hire three guys on site at 250K each and still save money. Think dude. Think.

Not if you only need a few tweaks taking a couple of days.
Permalink Aaron Swartz 
March 13th, 2018 3:42am
https://www.sqlite.org/about.html

..."we entreat you to use it well: to make good and beautiful products that are fast, reliable, and simple to use. Seek forgiveness for yourself as you forgive others. And just as you have received SQLite for free, so also freely give, paying the debt forward".

Interesting philosophy.
Permalink Benjamin Franklin 
March 13th, 2018 3:57am
Swartz is right.

Someone wants to hire three SQLite maintenance specialists at $250,000 each and pay $750,000 instead of a $75,000 maintenance fee that guarantees more than enough hours of SQL maintenance than they'll need. That doesn't make sense economically.

Needing changes made to the SQLite code base is not for casual users. Only a place as big as Apple needs that sort of access.
Permalink Reality Check 
March 13th, 2018 9:13am
If someone like Apple decides to fork the code and do their own changes -- they won't get access to the test code that covers 100% of all branches in the Sqlite code.  That's not for sale.

So they would never be sure that their changes didn't introduce some instability into a product that is famously stable and reliable.
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March 13th, 2018 10:05am

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