RIP Philo

Before you buy a new laptop, do one thing...

Turn it over and see how many panels there are for replacing things. 

Replacing the battery?
Removing the hard drive?
Upgrading the memory?

Many laptops these days have no panels underneath.  So incredibly annoying.
Permalink Tristan 
March 13th, 2018 11:11pm
If people gave a shit about that stuff, it would have it.  My laptop doesn't even have a harddrive; the SSD is just some card slotted into the 2 inches of motherboard at the far end and the rest of the whole thing is battery.

If you want to live in 1998, be my guest but those days are gone.
Permalink Send private email Almost Anonymous 
March 13th, 2018 11:17pm
The Surface has a repairability index of 0/10 from iFixit.

http://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/the-microsoft-surface-laptop-is-a-use-and-throw-device-the-only-way-to-repair-it-is-to-destroy-it-3715989.html

some other scores:
https://www.ifixit.com/tablet-repairability?sort=score

I have fixed Nexus 7, Kobo Glo and Asus Vivotab which all opened with a guitar pick but if you want a notebook you can open up with a screwdriver and fix by following its maker's manual, get a Thinkpad.
Permalink trollop 
March 13th, 2018 11:22pm
Ha ha ha. You repair and upgrade your own things instead of buying the latest model?

Loser.

No reasons to do that. Time marches on. Time to get the newest and best. Why wouldn't you want that for yourself?
Permalink Tech Faschion 
March 14th, 2018 1:14am
Laptops aren't really getting any better, or at least that's my experience.  They're getting lighter, which is a slight advantage if you're travelling by plane.
Permalink Tristan 
March 14th, 2018 1:34am
> if you want a notebook you can open up with a screwdriver and fix by following its maker's manual, get a Thinkpad.

Thinkpads are great.

Shame they're made by Lenovo:

https://www.inverse.com/article/36136-lenovo-settles-spyware-laptop-case-ftc-32-states
Permalink Alan Dershowitz 
March 14th, 2018 1:38am
That malware was found only on their consumer shit.  Hence Thinkpad rather than Lenovo.

I'm using one right now.
Permalink trollop 
March 14th, 2018 2:23am
Interesting, but there's no smoking gun:

\https://www.computerworld.com/article/2995012/windows-pcs/trusting-lenovo.html

The utility used to snoop the dispatcher shows that software is indeed running and the article convinced me it's harmless.

Colour me naïve if you like but I'm untroubled and still recommend a Thinkpad, bought off Gumtree, wiped and customised to your liking.  I merely ne a new SSD but hardware can be found bragging at length about their scalped CPUs and reflashed BIOS - all of which are as accessible to the tinkerer as an old VW beetle where undoing about 4 bolts gives total access to the motor as opposed to (say) a modern VW or Mini.
Permalink trollop 
March 14th, 2018 3:00am
Yeah, we don't need to extend RAM or replacing hard drive. It isn't worth it. Just make sure you pick the largest of everything and replace the laptop in 5 years or more.


It is a waste of money like buying a laptop with 8GB RAM and then replace the RAM module with 16GB later. You end up throwing away that 8GB module anyway. Just get 16 or 32 and be done with. If a laptop isn't offering anything larger than 8GB and not upgradable at purchase time? Skip it.
Permalink DrNo 
March 14th, 2018 10:33am
Couldn't you handle this like the Youtube videos that show you how to replace the batteries in smartphones that have non replaceable batteries? Generally you wind up finding a heat sealed seam on the device and slitting it with a knife or a special tool to get a panel off. It might be a handy skill to cultivate because the price of these devices will be almost zero when they're used but they will still have a lot of power.
Permalink Bored Bystander 
March 14th, 2018 11:37am
Louis Rossmann has been promoting a ‘Right of Repair’ bill that likely impacts things like this.
Permalink Armchair Lawyer 
March 14th, 2018 11:51am
Usually with RAM on a laptop, there is always a spare memory slot.  I don't recall ever having to throw memory away.

Let's suppose you want a laptop with 16GB of memory.  If you want  it installed by the manufacturer, you'll pay a minimum of 1450 for it (I refuse to buy Acer).  If I want a laptop with 8GB but can handle 16GB, I'll only have to pay 797.

I guess taking off the bottom cover is a skill needed now for those who want to increase their laptop's memory.
Permalink Tristan 
March 14th, 2018 1:40pm
Some laptop only has single channel memory RAM. It means there is only one slot.
Permalink DrNo 
March 14th, 2018 1:45pm
Let say you have two slots and they are 4GB each slot. You then buy one 16GB RAM module. That means you can only use one 4GB  module and throw the other 4GB module away.
Permalink DrNo 
March 14th, 2018 1:47pm
> It might be a handy skill to cultivate because the price of these devices will be almost zero when they're used but they will still have a lot of power.

Never works out that way; old devices typically have a value of zero pretty quickly because low-power new devices come out for less than it takes to repair these old ones.
Permalink Send private email Almost Anonymous 
March 14th, 2018 3:42pm

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