RIP Philo

Saving $4000 per month after only 3 years of truck driving

Not me. This guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIVbTOefOig

And he is saying that he is 1 year away from owning his own truck and saving up to $16000 per month as a owner operator.
If this is true, I wasted my life writing software.
Sure he has to pull 60 hour work weeks, but consider that he doesn't have to put up with office politics or stand up meetings.
Permalink Johnny Ekstrom 
April 11th, 2018 4:46pm
He’ll be bankrupt in 5 years when self driving trucks take over.
Permalink Ubfyedd 
April 11th, 2018 4:47pm
Right. You need to go low tech; not high tech to survive in the long term. How's about starting your nail salon? lol ;-)
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 4:49pm
I can see you being a nails salon's owner. Make sure you go places that don't have competition. The Vietnamese ones are not smart and they compete on price leading to "race to the bottom".
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 4:51pm
You no come here lady, you make too much tlubble.
Permalink Ubfyedd 
April 11th, 2018 4:53pm
You got that down with the accent. Next stop is hiring some Vietnamese girls working for you and you become da boss!
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 5:03pm
Nails are a really obvious niche market for small robots.
Permalink Algernon Montgomery 
April 11th, 2018 5:03pm
Just wait until robots chew off customers fingers by mistake.
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 5:04pm
I think it is more than nails panting...you have to cut it into shape, trim, and whatever?
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 5:05pm
@Ubfyedd No he won't be bankrupt, because he has no debt and is buying his truck in cash.
The only thing that could happen, he would have to do something else, and he will have enough money saved to change careers.
Permalink Johnny Ekstrom 
April 11th, 2018 5:07pm
Robot trucks will drive 24h/day. The industry will have massive overcapacity in the number of trucks, the value of his truck will fall through the floor.
Permalink Algernon Montgomery 
April 11th, 2018 5:09pm
Johnny can do it now because robot trucks won't be around for a while. By that time, Johnny will change into something else! How's about fixing robot trucks??? Come on guys. Think outside the truck, eh?
Permalink DrNo 
April 11th, 2018 5:11pm
When the trucks are electric, suffer hardly any wear, and have zero accidents, most of the repair shops will go bankrupt too.
Permalink Algernon Montgomery 
April 12th, 2018 3:06am
Autonomous vehicles combined with EVs is a massive societal change not seen since the invention of the ICE.
Permalink Anabela Huang 
April 12th, 2018 7:45am
Most people working in IT today will have their skills obsolete in 5 years.
I don't see how truck driving can be worse.
Permalink Johnny Ekstrom 
April 12th, 2018 8:40am
>how truck driving can be worse

Truck drivers aspire to being owner operators because that's where they can earn more money.

But a truck runs around $100k, that's a bit more than a MacBook.
Permalink Walherich Arwa 
April 12th, 2018 9:24am
It seems none of you know or have ever met a truck driver.

First, electric with its 200 mile range on a small lightweight vehicle before it needs an 8 hr recharge isn't going to do cross country 2500 mile runs carrying refrigerated meat or next day delivery products.

On those cross country runs you got to refuel several times and someone has to manage that. In addition something breaks down a couple times a month at least. You take it in to places. You fix it yourself. You call a guy to come and get it? Expensive when that happens, totally kills all your profit for a couple months.

Drivers make around minimum wage AFTER accounting for all their costs. They also fuck up their backs and become disabled. Not so many very old drivers around.

You also got to pack the truck and get shit out of it, and dolly it up to the person at each delivery. You also got to park in weird scenarios.

Just look around you at what trucks are doing.

Keeping between the lines on the freeway, which the automated stuff does sort of ok most the time, is about 0.0001% of the problem. And that's the part you guys are crowing that is on the verge of being solved.

You guys are like the dudes that were predicting star trek level language understanding just as soon as we can do auto-transcription from voice reliably. Well there were deeper problems than that one before an artificial intelligence understands what you are saying.
Permalink Reality Check 
April 12th, 2018 10:06am
>It seems none of you know or have ever met a truck driver.

  That isn't a requirement to have an opinion, have you?


>electric with its 200 mile range

  Citation needed


8 hr recharge

  Citation needed


>isn't going to do cross country 2500 mile runs carrying refrigerated meat or next day delivery products.

In the US a driver is limited to 11 hours driving with a 1 hour break during the shift before taking 10 hours off duty. At average highway speeds, that driver will get in maybe 600–650 miles during their shift


>you got to refuel several times and someone has to manage that

  Citation needed


>Something breaks down a couple times a month at least

  Citation needed
Permalink Anicetus Aljoša 
April 12th, 2018 10:18am
@But a truck runs around $100k, that's a bit more than a MacBook.

According to the youtube guy, he is buying a used truck for $35k, did you watch the video?
With so many used trucks parked for lack of drivers why buy new one?
I have never bought a 0 miles car yet, it's a waste of money.
Permalink Johnny Ekstrom 
April 12th, 2018 11:53am
Maybe he should be asking why 2nd hand trucks are so cheap now.
Permalink Ubfyedd 
April 12th, 2018 11:59am
cheaper because it has been abused, used, and rusting away.
Permalink DrNo 
April 12th, 2018 12:03pm
>he is buying a used truck for $35k

My mistake he's only spending 10x the price of a MacBook.
Permalink Walherich Arwa 
April 12th, 2018 12:06pm
@My mistake he's only spending 10x the price of a MacBook.

If in 2 years he is making 150k as a owner operator, then it's a good return.
Permalink Johnny Ekstrom 
April 12th, 2018 12:32pm
He won’t be

It isn’t
Permalink Ubfyedd 
April 12th, 2018 12:47pm
If it was normal for owner/operators to be making $150k from $35k trucks, the banks would be falling over themselves to offer loans on such a deal.

They aren't

It isn't

Dream on.
Permalink Samed Maud 
April 12th, 2018 12:53pm

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