RIP Philo

Launched my website

I'm selling an actual product. Curated marketdata and processing software and services around it.

By that (processing software and services) I mean I'm selling both the source code (including training for the buyer's in-house programmers to use it) and plain ol' outsourcing (if it ain't you, the CEO, who's coding it then you're outsourcing).
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:03am
Of course, there is no URL to not have the site DDoSed.
Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:06am
I'm on COT but I'm not crazy. You won't get no URL here, just questions.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:13am
How will people be made aware of it?
Permalink Elaine Buckley 
July 6th, 2018 11:14am
Anyway, congratulations. Keep us updated about how it will work for you.

This reminds me how much I miss daddy's house and the business oriented discussions.
Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:15am
Every day we see that there are deranged hackers who full time attack this site here and try to destroy anyone that posts here.

So yeah, no way in hell would anyone sane here post a link to their own website.
Permalink Reality Check 
July 6th, 2018 11:19am
I already started mass-marketing my side / business, and I haven't been much spammy even before GDPR. First because it's very hard to collect addresses of capital market businesses so it was (and still is) a manual process anyways. Then, in the first phase after sending like 300 automated mails (using the curated manual list I made) and getting 3 answers none of them encouraging, I realized I have to apply yet more curation. On a comparison to job applications, it's not like I didn't read their "mission statement", I got that very well and the fact that it matches my offer as much as the bovines around me are interested in anything but chewing, shitting, chatting and multiplying. Or me in their ways.

So now, at V2, I'm actually only "spaming" the ones I really like. If I like 'em, there's an estimated high chance (I feel) that they might like ($$$) me back. Or at least, that's how I function.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:21am
>the bovines around me

Great sales focus there Io
Permalink Filipe Lene 
July 6th, 2018 11:22am

By the way, I know you hate META discussions about CoT, but what is there a way to update the FruitShow source code to make it more spammer unfriendly (limit the post size, throttle posts from the same IP, etc.)

I know the code is on Github. But if someone updates it, is there a guarantee it will be reflected in CoT's running instance?
Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:23am
>> the bovines around me

That would be the "retailer" market or shall I be frank and say "Romanian" market. I'm now 160% certain I'm the only guy in Cluj (a pre-medieval city dating back 2000 years) who knows these things. 101% I'm the only guy in Romania who knows these things (fact there was no Romania even 200 years ago might or might not be relevant).

Anywayz I'm like 99.998% positive the thing I do in the local market just has no local market so it's fair to call them what they are.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:29am
@Random Lurker: I tried (and still try) using FruitShow as my forum software (after abandoning it in a fit of rage and installing PhPBB which was even worse, then getting back to it).

At this point I'm thinking investing actual money in it but be aware most of it is in future value :D

Right now I'd put $1000 for making it better. Question is how much effort does that buy?
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:33am
Obviously if I invest $1000 or more (like say $50,000), I expect BusinessOnCot be put on track again and me having a significant (not majority but I'll delete your ass if you cross me) share in it.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:37am

I have maintained a legacy PhpBB2 forum which is still running and relatively spam free. PhpBB2 code has been fixed, updated and I've even added several new features to counter spam and make moderators life easier.

I am thinking also of adopting FruitShow as the primary community BB for a software project. I am willing to contribute but only with minor tweaks for now (making FS mobile friendly - CSS only - I hate JS and iritu way of behaving).
Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:39am
BusinessOnCot? $50,000? Huh?

And how much ROI do you expect from CoT residents?
Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:42am
Other than that lemme just vent a little and tell you how hard it was for me to get here, how much I hate the bovines and how *impossible* will be to get past the point where for 99.998% of the world's bovine population (equal it's actual population) stops envying me for being such a successful guy who only needs to sit his ass for 8 hours in order to get food, shelter and entertainment.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:42am
@Random Lurker: talk to me on Monday, after the beers have weared off. Seriously.

Better I'll contact you but keep in mind the "cultural" delay :D
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:44am
>> And how much ROI do you expect from CoT residents?

COT residents will be grossly, shamefully, unspeakably overpaid. But I know you so I'm OK with it :P
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:45am
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Permalink Random Lurker 
July 6th, 2018 11:48am
I'm way past anything that's called "statistically significant", which in snake oil sells at 0.01% and general population is generally trained enough to recognize 51%.

I don't hate everyone, just every and to the very last customized bovine that speaks my customized language yet they let things (like bovines do) drift to this point.

For this they shall all die. Romanian language is no longer, we, me, they, should be assimilated.
Permalink Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:54am
>I'm selling an actual product. Curated marketdata and processing software and services around it.

That market is taken.  At the high-end, for people with a budget, there's Bloomberg.

At the low-end, there's cheapskates who can't afford to pay.

There aren't enough customers in the middle to sustain a business.  (can afford to pay something, but not enough for Bloomberg or one of the established players)

People with a budget to pay for market data usually also have the budget for at least one programmer.
Permalink Send private email FSK 
July 6th, 2018 6:22pm
It's not I don't agree. But we'll see.
Permalink Send private email Io 
July 6th, 2018 11:47pm
>There aren't enough customers in the middle to sustain a business

If there were enough customers then wouldn't such businesses already exist?

Do they?
Permalink Leticia Bell 
July 7th, 2018 2:04am

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