RIP Philo

Anyone here explored Gab.Ai?

I'm trying it.

It looks superficially like an ad-less Facebook or like VK (VContakte).

It has an extremely indie, pre-web feel, sort of like unmoderated USENET newsgroups or a political forum from the 1990s.

But OMG. It's literally everything that social media has disallowed and banned. I'm wondering if it's a CIA or NSA honeypot. Another comparison is the dark web without the drugs and murder for hire.

I do notice absolutely no trace of leftism or progressivism on it. They would definitely get hassled, but they could invade Gab and balance out the numbers a bit and nobody would ban them outright. It appears that the left has red-lined this site and stays off entirely.
Permalink Boredbot 
August 8th, 2018 6:00pm
gab.ai was created by alt-right people who were banned from Twitter.  That's probably the reason it's got people on the extreme right only.
Permalink Send private email FSK 
August 8th, 2018 6:46pm
I'm pretty sure most of the super racist shit on these sites is posted by Soros' 50 cent army of paid leftist agitators. Goal is to discredit any sites that allow any conservative views whatsoever by making them look like hotbeds of KKK members and Nazis.
Permalink RC 
August 8th, 2018 7:04pm
It had me wondering, yes. Gab.ai seems very thick with swastikas and white power shit.
Permalink Boredbot 
August 8th, 2018 7:13pm
Breaking news.

Gab is hosted on Microsoft servers.

Microsoft has given them 48 hours, starting today, to deplatform and remove all conservative content, or they will be banned from using any Microsoft servers or technology.

https://gab.ai/a/posts/31242665

Fuck Microsoft!
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 11:24am
For critical analysis lets look at two of the example posts that Microsoft says can not be hosted on software run by their customers. Posts are given for critical analysis ONLY, and historical archiving purposes, both fair use. No one here advocates the point of view shown.

BEGIN EXCERPT
https://gab.ai/Patrick_little/posts/29524783

No amount of suffering could repay, eye for an eye, the debt the jew owes the world... given their current population numbers.

... but after putting on a jew thinking hat: Introducing a plan to raise jews as livestock, providing a steady supply of vessels for vengeance for the hundreds of years of jew crops that will have to be raised for ritual death by torture.

https://gab.ai/Patrick_little/posts/29476951

Count down to a live stream of me taking a sledge hammer to a holohoax memorial in twelve months.

Will someone take this cross from me?
END EXCERPT


So these are of course offensive and ignorant trash talk. But not illegal. Gab wishes to host such content, and in fact, under the law if it moderates some posts it is responsible for all of them. So moderating these posts can expose them to greater legal responsibility, not less.
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 11:30am
It's extremely obvious to me that Patrick_little is part of the Soros 50¢ army that constantly posts absolute bullshit about "holohoax" and "hail der fuhrer" crap on every free speech board in existence in order to get the credibility of the free speech board undermined, get it banned from the internet, and discredit anyone who dares to post on that platform, even if those people say nothing offensive.

These posts are so similar across platforms that Patrick_little may not even be a human at all but may be an army of human assisted bots which post algorithmic offensive crap, and occasional when their botness is called out a human operator is routed through to the shadow account.

The_Donald recognized that these sorts of posts are posted by paid leftists in order to discredit the group and has a zero-tolerance policy. All such posts result in post deletion and instant perma-banning.
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 11:35am
Forgot to mention, I consider it to be 95%+ chance Patrick_little reported his own posts to Microsoft.
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 11:42am
He might even work FOR Microsoft!
Permalink Tinfoil Hat 
August 9th, 2018 11:48am
Speak of the devil, a 50 center has arrived!
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 11:50am
Anyone for self hosting?

I just found a home page on Nearlyfreespeech.net for a Thule Society follower.
Permalink Boredbot 
August 9th, 2018 11:54am
What's interesting is that MS is complaining that the two sample posts are phishing related. Neither one even has a link.
Permalink Boredbot 
August 9th, 2018 11:57am
I switched a long time ago. My hosting is all outside US jurisdiction, specifically on servers owned by anarchists that don't respond to take down requests or subpoenas. Not that I am doing anything dodgy. I just prefer free speech.
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 12:08pm
"What's interesting is that MS is complaining that the two sample posts are phishing related."

Yeah it's hard to know what to make of that claim. On gab some believe it is evidence Microsoft didn't even review the link before issuing their threat.

Maybe. Who knows.

Important part here is we see the writing on the wall. Every major cloud computing platform the server host is now looking at all your private business traffic and policing it for you and issuing threats if they don't like your content. These are https sites and the cloud guys are peeking at what is happening before encryption, so called deep packet inspection, but extra deep, before encryption. They do it for this, they also peek at your banking and stock trading traffic as well.

This is what I've been saying about the cloud all along. Who would be insane enough to entrust their competitor with all their proprietary and secret business info.
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 12:23pm
Bob: "I'm safe, I've got https! Middleman can't get to the data."

Amy: "But Bob. You're the middleman here."
Permalink RC 
August 9th, 2018 12:25pm
The guy's getting all of these offers to help move him to a LAMP or Node.js platform. He really needs to be generic and get rid of the branded one-vendor Azure cloud stuff.
Permalink Boredbot 
August 9th, 2018 12:30pm
> These are https sites and the cloud guys are peeking at what is happening before encryption,

These posts are visible even if you aren't logged in.

What about just spidering the site?
Permalink Boredbot 
August 9th, 2018 12:34pm
The lesson here is clear.
Permalink Tinfoil Hat 
August 9th, 2018 12:44pm
> The lesson here is clear.

Yes, corporations are bought and paid for and are seemingly allowed to be biased against some content but not others.
Permalink Ruseman 
August 10th, 2018 7:01am

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