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Poll: who was responsible for 911?

The entire episode is mysterious, from the explanation that was given, to the oddities of the investigation, to the attack on Iraq.

What are your views?
Permalink ,ndo 
September 10th, 2018 8:22am
The whole thing is similar to the JFK episode: 50 years later and one can't tell for sure who was responsible.
Permalink Random Lurker 
September 10th, 2018 9:17am
Like JFK, people tend not to want to believe that "one person can make a difference" when it comes to making huge impacts. JFK pissed off a lot of people, so almost every conspiracy theory is reasonable. It is also reasonable for one crank to have shot him.



https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism
Permalink Pie and a McHalf 
September 10th, 2018 9:25am
The mostly-Saudi terrorists were responsible, backed by bin Laden.

The problem I have with it all is it let all the closet authoritarians get their way.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 (Moto phone) 
September 10th, 2018 9:34am
> The mostly-Saudi terrorists were responsible, backed by bin Laden.

Do you really think that these 60 IQ camel riders can do such a job?

FYI, and just to help you get how deeply fucked they are, Saudis can't get the Houthis in Yemen to surrender despite all their firepower and a siege of 3 years. Keep in mind that they are helped by war contractors and experts and yet they can't do anything.

They are stupid by nature and anyone who has worked for them or with them can vouch that. So 9/11 is definitely out of their range of possibilities.
Permalink Random Lurker 
September 10th, 2018 10:31am
Well the families of all the dead attackers, some of whose passports were recovered intact from the crash and fire, have said that their family member was not involved, and wasn't even in the US at the time.

It's pretty common for Russian and Israeli operatives to use the passports of real people, combined with disguises.

There's also significant numbers of reputable experts who have said that certain claims about the WTC7 for example don't add up.

There's also the Penn. and Pentagon crash sites where respectively insufficient and no debris at all were recovered from an airplane crash.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
September 10th, 2018 10:37am
Lurker's right on Saudis. I went to school with them and they are the most ignorant, smelly stupid entitled people I've met and they are all alcoholics and drug addicts as well.

However, bin Laden, personal friend of McCain, Rumsfeld, the whole Bush family, and others, was personally trained and funded by the CIA. This is a documented historical fact. He's a guy that runs deep cover operations for the CIA.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
September 10th, 2018 10:46am
Lex Luthor?

Doctor Doom?

The Red Skull?

Brainiac?
Permalink Hell man, I dunno 
September 10th, 2018 12:02pm
Look here: it is always hard playing defense when the enemies are nimble and prepare to die with sneak attack.

The only way to deal with this kind of warfare is to nuke them before they get to you!
Permalink DrPepper 
September 10th, 2018 4:43pm
It was simple.

Bush and Cheney needed an attack on US soil so they could justify their military adventurism attacking Iraq.  So they 'left the doors open', by ignoring the Clinton Terrorism Czar, ignoring CIA warnings, and ignoring FBI warnings.

They had NO idea how destructive the act would actually be, but they were certainly expecting an attack.  Thus when Bush was initially told the attack was occurring, he continued to read that children's book to the kids.

THEN, when the attack actually happened, it was people out of Afghanistan, not Iraqi's at all.  But still, that gave Bush and Cheney carte-blanche to overturn civil rights in America, spend a trillion dollars in retribution, and through State-Departement propaganda about Iraq justify their attack on Iraq.

It was all part of the New American Century, the Domino theory that once Iraq became Democratic, then Iran would become Democratic.  This all ignored a HUGE part of the equation, though -- that Iraq was NOT 'ready for Democracy', instead it was an unstable collection of Shiite and Suni populations with a strong-man holding it all together.  Topple the strong-man, and you get incessant Militia actions all vying to become top-dog and implement THEIR religious theocracy.

That's how 9/11 came about.  But the truth will be suppressed for at least 100 years.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
September 11th, 2018 4:27pm
Didn't Bill Clinton miss the chance of killing Bin Laden?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/16/bill-clinton-and-the-missed-opportunities-to-kill-osama-bin-laden

Democrats are shitty decision makers.
Permalink DrPepper 
September 12th, 2018 12:58pm

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