Y'all are a bunch of wankers!


Fuck Microsoft and fuck Windows. I need a desktop linux distro that I can get for free.

I have an Intel p4. Which distro am I going to need that I don't have to build from source?

Will my VGA drivers and DVD controllers disk that I got when I bought the PC work with the linux distro or will I need something else?
August 7th, 2008 3:53pm
Free = pretty much all of them.  Not build from source = pretty much all of them.  No, you can't use the driver disc, but you almost certainly won't need to, either.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 3:54pm
Is this a post from 2004 that somehow got delayed until now?
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 3:55pm
Umm, Ubuntu?
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
August 7th, 2008 3:57pm
I've used Ubuntu from the LiveCD so far but nothing sophisticated. I've had it with Microsoft. I guess it's now time for me to move on. Fuck Microsoft.
August 7th, 2008 3:58pm
If you're still you, you already said that.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
August 7th, 2008 4:00pm
Stupid question: I have three partitions on my hard disk at the moment.

a) primary: Win XP Pro that I want to get rid of.

b) secondary: D: my data (fat32)

c) secondary E: my data (ntfs)

Can I retain the secondary partitions and have Ubuntu read from them? I somehow think that will be unlikely.

How do I get my files from those partitions and have Ubuntu read them?
August 7th, 2008 4:03pm
Ubuntu will be able to read/write fat32 and read ntfs.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:04pm
Of course, you should back up your data first just in case.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:05pm
Thanks, Aaron. So I  need to install Ubuntu on C: and let it format only C: right? Then, I can recover my data from the other two partitions?
August 7th, 2008 4:05pm
I didn't think Ubunto HAD to 'format' anything.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
August 7th, 2008 4:06pm
In theory.  There is the off chance that you'll screw it up and format the whole thing, which is why I suggest backing up your data first.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:07pm
STH, he may be able to just install directly to that partition, but I'm not sure.

I generally just flatten the whole damn thing, personally.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:08pm
lordy lordy
August 7th, 2008 4:08pm
guess I'll go and buy Vista Home Premium tomorrow morning then

I know it sucks. I am using it on this laptop and it is already me grief. But I got no option I guess.
August 7th, 2008 4:09pm
No option?

Are you stupid?

Did you not read what we said?
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:10pm
I just thought that the chances of me taking a backup of that 120 GB thingy and not screwing up are pretty bleak against just walking up to a store, buying that Vista crap and just asking it to sit quietly on C:.
August 7th, 2008 4:11pm
If you use Windows, do you buy your Windows from resellers? One of the reseller websites said in their disclaimer that I could not register the copy I buy from them and that it was without any license or warranty, but it is a legal retail copy.

What does that fricking mean? How do you buy your Windows? From Microsoft?
August 7th, 2008 4:13pm
Hey, you're the one that said you were tired of Windows and Microsoft.

But if you'd rather give them your money, feel free.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:13pm

You're a troll.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:14pm
Wow, installing Vista.  Man, that's right up there with voting for McCain, because you're disappointed Hillary isn't the Democratic nominee.

Shoot, at LEAST install Cygwin and see how you like it.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
August 7th, 2008 4:15pm
I hate Microsoft but I can't see the complexities in my life going away if I install Ubuntu at the moment.

I need a painless, short-term solution that will get me up and running almost immediately. I got a lot of stuff to do.
August 7th, 2008 4:15pm
STH, it's pointless.  We've been trolled.

It's obvious, in retrospect.  I mean, my second post calls it out - something felt wrong right off the bat.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:16pm
Nope. Not a troll.
August 7th, 2008 4:17pm
You somehow think Vista will be a better option than Ubuntu if XP is giving you fits?
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:18pm
Definitely not. I don't think Vista is better than Ubuntu and I have Vista scars to prove that.

I just think at this moment, it might save me time (at the expense of shelling out some cash).

May be when things ease out and I have more time, I'll uninstall the crap, take back ups and load Ubuntu.
August 7th, 2008 4:20pm
Two pending questions:

a) What is OEM Windows? Sorry if it is a real do-you-know-where-your-ass-is question.

b) Is it alright to buy Windows from a reseller or do you buy Windows from Microsoft for 4 times the price?
August 7th, 2008 4:23pm
OEM means you buy it with hardware.

From a reseller - a lot of "resellers" online are selling pirated copies, which is illegal.  If you buy it from an actual company, like Best Buy, it's going to be legit.  If you're trying to "save money", it's probably pirated.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:25pm
If you can't register it, it's not going to be a legal copy.
Permalink Aaron 
August 7th, 2008 4:26pm
>> Vista Home Premium <<


(do it, and you'll regret it.  Voice of experience, here)
Permalink xampl 
August 7th, 2008 4:28pm
I have Vista Home Premium on my laptop.  I love it.  It's fine.  Not a single problem except for shoddy support for laptop 3D accelerators from Nvidia.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
August 7th, 2008 4:38pm
I have Vista Home Premium too on this laptop and I hate every bit of it.

Just to name a few:

a) explorer.exe crashes when it feels like, you gotta love that. I'm sure m$ didn't think the application was an essential part of the user experience.

b) sonic solutions dvd drivers don't work with it even when they're VISTA compatible. yay! What does that mean? It means if you burn a CD or DVD on this computer using Nero/Roxio/WhateverElseYouMayDownload it will burn the disk in a few years time but you won't be able to play that disk on any other computer, not even on another computer that has Vista Home Premium.

c) it is super duper slow overall

d) i forget

ummm! now I really don't know what to do...

guess I'll just give up working with computers.
August 7th, 2008 4:44pm
my favorite troll of all time

Permalink arg! 
August 7th, 2008 4:53pm
Super duper slow?  I'm running on a Core Duo at 1.85Ghz with 2GB of RAM and I haven't noticed any slowness with Aero and everything turned on.
Permalink Send private email muppet 
August 7th, 2008 5:00pm
I thought this was just humor.

[bad MSFT!, blah blah, MSFT sucks, blah, blah]

[Hey, will that other stuff work with my hardware?]

Permalink JoC 
August 7th, 2008 6:51pm
It's dead simple to install SUSE, Fedora, Ububtu ... into a chosen partition and leave all other existing partitions intact. Modern distros offer a graphical interface to pick the target install partition and you'd have to be dead stupid or unlucky to miss.

But if you want better safety, install another disk (doesn't have to new, or big, just suitable for a p4) as master, with the original disk cabled as slave or as secondary master. Then install Linux on hda - after making absolutely sure hdb is the one with your 3 existing partitions!!!

Revert if you don't like the result.
Permalink trollop 
August 7th, 2008 8:40pm

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