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Does craigslist suck or is it awesome?

Wired analyzes why craigslist sucks so bad. The article makes clear it is run by a bunch of aspergers types that don't understand how to run a business or design a site.

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/17-09/ff_craigslist?currentPage=all

Interesting insight there, the reason that they don't make these changes that experts suggest is "It is the same reason that craigslist has never done any of the things that would win approval among Web entrepreneurs, which is the same reason he has never updated its 1999-era Web design. The reason is that craigslist's users are not asking for such changes."

I looked at some of their recommended changes in a sidebar and didn't see the advantage, it was like criticisms that google should run more ads on the front page, and have news stories and comics there too like yahoo.

To check this out, I just went and checked CL for local jobs, which I have bookmarked. So there is a page right there that has all the jobs in my city, listed, and one click shows the ad.

Then I went to Joel's board and there was a list of jobs in India and London and places I don't care about. Then went to check out Monster and couldn't find the right part of the site within 10 minutes, and the whole thing was too slow to use.

So, I say craigslist wins not because it is free for most listings, but because it has the information I am looking for and is not a bloated piece of shit like 100% of the other web crapware out there.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:03am
BTW, CoT is awesome because it has what I am looking for, crazy, and it is ON TAP.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:06am
Speaking of Joel though, check out this job in New York.

http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?5224

Work for the Council on Foreign Relations.

No explanation since you know what this means or you don't.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:12am
Shit, an ad looking for "systems programmer" to  work on operating system level stuff. Only reply if meet all requirements which includes "ADVANCED Microsoft Word skills". What the fuck. You think an operating system level programmer doesn't know how to use Word? Might as well add "Must be able to use toilet without supervision, and have skills at turning on own computer each morning."
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:26am
C++ programmer. 5 years experience. Please include results of TYPING SPEED TEST in your submission. $8/hr.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:28am
Repeat after me folks.

"WE CANT FIND ANY ONE WITH THE NECESSARY QUALIFICATIONS. THE AMERICAN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE US WITH THE NEEDED HIGH TECH WORKERS."
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:29am
Internship Opportunity. Build your resume while learning the details behind real business.

This is not training that is not used. Your programs will be used by real customers. This will make you look much more professional than other internships that have you work on toy projects.

Please be advised this is an un-paid internship, but possibly could lead to an opportunity for a position in the future. All of our developers start as interns for one year, and have the opportunity for growth in the future.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 5:33am
stop tooting the crack mate

here is the guardians response to the wired article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/aug/26/craigslist-wired
Permalink what are you reading for? 
August 30th, 2009 6:40am
Repost dildo.

http://crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=53756&Posts=0
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
August 30th, 2009 9:55am
Should repost dildo be applicable to threads with content-free subject lines?
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 2:46pm
Guardian article is good as is this one it links to.

http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2009/08/what-we-can-learn-from-mess.html

Because THAT one links to this one, which has the real insight:

http://www.unionsquareventures.com/2009/08/chris_and_malco.html

"Since Craigslist collapsed a multibillion dollar classified advertising business into a fabulously profitable $100,000,000 business, perhaps we should be talking about the potential deflationary impact of more "zero billion dollar" businesses. As the radical efficiencies of the web seep into more sectors of the economy, and participants in social networks exchange attention instead of dollars, will governments at all levels need to make do with less tax revenue?"


Question - can we reduce health care costs by going this approach?

I say YES, but I doubt we will do it lacking total collapse.

Here's how it works. I get sick and have pneumonia, for which the treatment is antibiotics. I order them for $5 at WalMart, follow the directions, and get better.

Total cost of curing pneumonia: $5

Total cost under old system:
2 x doctors appointments = $250
prescription = $100
total: $350

My way is SEVENTY times cheaper.
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 3:20pm
> Total cost under old system:
> 2 x doctors appointments = $250
> prescription = $100
> total: $350

Free antibiotics trade will turn them useless in no time because of resistance.

I propose a compromise:

1 x doctors appointment = $50
prescription = $30
total: $80
Permalink Attila 
August 30th, 2009 3:49pm
Wrong about antibiotics because:

1. nearly everywhere else in the world you can buy antibiotics over the counter

2. most doctors currently give antibiotics to anyone who whines for them
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 6:04pm
Also, why charge $30 for a $5 prescription? Who gets the $25?
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 6:07pm
"Should repost dildo be applicable to threads with content-free subject lines?"

If you wanted to say something, why not say it in the previous post.

I have proven you are a self-serving attention-whoring pussy motherfucker.
Permalink Send private email sharkfish 
August 30th, 2009 6:54pm
Problem is I had no idea there was a post on this topic. Also, I linked in to a different leaf in the forest of the topic.

If I knew you had started the topic, sure I would have posted there instead.

Recommendation: have subjects be informative.

Good: Does craigslist suck?
Bad:  Article I read

Good: Health care reform is bad
Bad:  what the hell

Good: Joel's board has gone down hill
Bad:  Meh
Permalink Cowboy Coder 
August 30th, 2009 8:00pm

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